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Good evening, everyone. Im erin burnett. Outfront tonight, we have breaking news. A state of emergency. At least nine wildfires at this moment raging across californias San Diego County. The flames are out of control, already burning nearly 10,000 acres. Wow. There it is right there. There it is right there. Oh my god oh my god 125,000 people already told to evacuate. 22 structures, several homes already destroyed. President obama has now been briefed on the situation. And right now the top priority is the uncontrollable blaze in san marcos. That particular fire has already burned through a thousand acres. It is only 5 contained. Officials tonight trying to determine the cause of the fires. They wont rule out arson. Were going have more on that. Now i want to begin with gary tuchman. He is outfront in san marcos. And gary, the pictures we just saw were apocalyptic. I mean, these are incredible. Erin, its a volatile and very dangerous situation here in san marcos, california. Population 83,000. About 30 miles northeast of san diego. This is not a rural area. This is the middle of a prosperous city. And you see on top of the hill in this city of san marcos, you can see the flames burning. You can see the helicopter that is water. That is in the container. It is dumping water on the fire spots throughout san marcos. What is so unusual about this fire, erin, yesterday morning when people woke up in this town, they didnt see very much of anything at all there was some fire, but it was relatively minor. It sprung up very quickly with the heat, the low humidity, the winds. And then it died down a little bit this morning. When we came out this morning, we saw very little fire once again. The winds picked up, and now its all over the city one more time. I want to show you on this side, this fire, you cant see the flames anymore. We saw flames an hour ago. We see smoke. But john, my photographer, is going to zoom in. Youre going to see the foundation of a house. That house burned down from a fire just an hour ago. Once again, the helicopter above it dropping waterton flames. There is a lot of concern, erin. As you said, only 5 under control. And here in San Diego County, youre talking about 10,000 acres that have been destroyed. And this is only may. Fire season usually kicks off in middle of the summer, the beginning of the fall. Thats the heart of fire season. Were in springtime here. And may in these dry conditions are very concerned what the season could end upbringing. Erin . And gary, you mentioned again, the fire where you are, only 5 contained. How much worse do you think are they telling you it could get . Well, you know, weve covered fires for so many years. What is unusual about this one, while we were standing in an area of trees, there was a little bit of flames. And were taking some shots of an area we thought was particularly vulnerable. But we saw the flames start coming towards us. So we stepped back about 100 yards. Within 15 minutes, those trees were all completely gone. We saw what is basically called a fire tornado. Its a whirlwind of smoke in a fire thats caused by the winds, caused by the humidity. And it spread the fire hundreds of yards in a matter of seconds. And thats why this is so dangerous. Of all the disasters we cover, erin, hurricanes and tornadoes, this is the most treacherous because you know which direction a hurricane is going. You dont know where a tornado is going, but you know how to stay away from it. But if youre anywhere near a fire like these firefighters are, theyre very brave people, and theyre from all over Southern California here. If youre a firefighter, you never know youre completely safe at any given time if you can see the fire because it can come towards you. Thank you very much, were going to keep checking back this with gary. A reminder of the firefighters who lost their lives last summer when they were fighting a fire. Now the cause of the nine wildfires tonight is under investigation. San diego county sheriff bill gore says arson is a possibility. San diego county supervisor bilhorn joins me. Let me start with you first. These fires can move hundreds of yards in a matter of seconds. You think youre standing there very safely, and all of the sudden, it can surge towards you. And this is so much earlier in fire season than normal. How bad is this . Well, we normally see weather like this in october and november, and sometimes we get it in january and february when we get a santa ana. This is because of the High Pressure over the desert, this is created a santa anatype condition. We normally dont get 100 degree weather and 60mileanhour winds. This is very unusual for may. I guess its the beginning of an awfully hot fire season. And you talk about the timing. Its the temperature. Its the wind. But its also possibly how these fires were started. There were reports earlier that someone had been detained, possibly for arson, and then released. Do you know anything about that . No. Earlier yesterday, i alluded to the fact that because of the fires, and ive been doing this for 20 years, the fact that ive been through a lot of big fires in San Diego County, the cedar fire, the paradise fire, witch cree, cuyamaca, what have you. It really burned up a lot of areas. But in those cases, the fire was spread by embers from one fire to the next, what have you. In this yesterday and a fire started basically in six separate spots, close to roadways, next to big fuel that was basically set aside for habitat that burned right into very populated areas. And for me its just, you know, six fires like that, its just too much of a coincidence. So i dont have any evidence, its just my gut feeling having done this for 20 year. Im watching air tankers right now drop in the canyon. So i really think i know we have our arson team out there from the sheriffs department. And i know the california fire is out there too with their arson team. If this was started by somebody, i had heard earlier they arrested somebody in escondido. But i understand they released him. So obviously he was not the person. But i still have my suspicions. This is just too much of a coincidence. We get fire like other places get tornadoes and hurricanes. San diego county just happens to be prepared for fire. Were very prepared. God bless everybody who is serving down here. I mean we have units here from modesto, an entire battalion i saw earlier from riverside county. We have from santa barbara, all over. We could not do this without their help. We have the marine corps helicopters put this canyon out to save the houses. Yes. But i do have my suspicions to be honest with you. All right, well, bill, thank you very much. Were going to keep following that story. And interesting as he laid out where the fires were started near those fuel depots along highways, as to why he thinks it was arson. But its however that spark started, its extreme temperatures, as you heard, 100 plus degrees, strong winds, 60 Miles Per Hour plus that are making this so horrific. Only 5 contained in the fires you were looking at right there. Jennifer gray, our meteorologist is outfront. Jennifer, when you look at this, these are some of the worst they have seen. Is there any relief in sight, or is this something that is just going to continue to spiral out of control . Yeah, these images are just awful. Temperatures have been very, very hot. They were hot yesterday. Hot today. Weve been shattering records across the board. And we were in the 90s today. Some areas in the tripledigits. 20 to 30 degrees above normal. Good news is after today, temperatures should start to fall. Theyll still be above normal by the weekend. But they will be a little bit cooler compared to how we have been. Look at this. 102 High Temperature in chula vista. Record 81 degrees. So shattering a record by more than 20 degrees in parts of california. Of course, weve been talking a lot about the santa ana winds, those very strong winds that are pulling offshore. We should get more of an onshore flow by the weekend that will help increase that humidity. Thats what you want to help out these firefighters to battle these wildfires. You want humidity to increase, and you want the temperatures to go down. Still very, very dry, though, across the area. Were not going see any rain in Southern California for the near future. It will stay hot. It will stay breezy. And it will stay dry. The Drought Monitor came out for today. 100 of the state of california in a severe drought. 25 in exceptional drought. Exceptional is the highest category when youre talking about drought. So it is a dire situation across the entire state, erin. Jennifer, thank you very much. And were going to continue monitoring those fires. Well be checking back in with that throughout the hour. Next we have breaking news on flight 370. Exclusive new information only here about the satellite data at the center of the search. Plus, the Zodiac Killer known for Taunting Police with coded messages was never caught. Our guest coming up says he is the killers son. And three roommates find more than 40,000 in their couch. Theyre outfront. [ female announcer ] theres a gap out there. Thats keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. At humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler. If frustration and paperwork decrease. If grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. The gap begins to close. So lets simplify things. Lets close the gap between people and care. When folks think about gap wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. 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This is crucial because the malaysian government said just today that it doesnt have the quote unquote raw data. Families and scientists have been increasingly at inmarsat for supposedly refusing to release to it anyone. Inmarsat then goes on to exclusively tell outfront we have very high confidence in the analysis of this data, which was independently evaluated by the International Teams accredited to the official investigation. They are standing by the analysis that has led searchers to the southern indian ocean. Also crucial given a recent report citing a group of scientists who said the inmarsat analysis could be wrong with searchers looking in the wrong ocean. After all, its been 70 days since the plane disappeared. There has not been a single shard of debris found in the search zone or evidence of debris beneath the water. Breaking news, inmarsat says it has definitively absolutely given the malaysians the raw data is in direct conflict with that the malaysians said just this morning. Jim clancy is outfront. Reporter what happened to flight 370 is the biggest mystery in the history of modern aviation. But the raw data gleaned from handshakes as the plane flew thousands of miles offcourse is not a mystery. It may instead become a controversy. There is any request for raw data to be made available to the public, it must be made to inmarsat. Reporter australian officials heading the search in the southern indian ocean tell cnn they dont have the raw data either, but inmarsat, the company that owns the satellites insists that data has already been released. We shared the information that we have. And its for the investigation to the site, what and when it puts out. Reporter the truth it seems somewhere in between. Malaysia as the country in charge of the investigation is supposed to control the release of any information. But in this case, the conclusions were shared in a presentation on a laptop computer. Malaysias transport minister insists he doesnt have the raw data itself. Malaysia and everyone else have the conclusions. Thats the sequence of maps that was produced by reading satellite data that showed the jetliner was somewhere along a huge arc. Further calculations aided by boeing, Malaysia Airlines and others placed flight 370 in the southern indian ocean, nearly out of fuel and far from land. Is a reassessment of raw satellite data in order . Well, cnn has asked the malaysian government if it would request raw data from inmarsat in the hopes it could then in some form perhaps be made public and openly examined. Angus houston, the man in charge of the search warrants, some of the worlds best experts are confident the current analysis is correct. But even he doesnt rule out some kind of review. Erin . All right, jim clancy, thank you very much. Joining me now, miles obrien and arthur rosenberg. All right, miles. So malaysia is the man in charge there says they have not given us the raw data. He says that this morning. Inmarsat now exclusively telling outfront yes, we did. We gave them the raw data. They have everything. This is really Crucial Point here. Who do you believe . I dont know who to believe. But isnt it awful that its quite evident somebody is lying here. Somebody is lying. Were talking about something that involves a missing airliner, now 70 days. Lives lost, families shattered. And there is people lying about this. This is absolutely reprehensible. I cant even believe that it would be funny if it wasnt so tragic. Arthur, someone is lying. I dont think there is any question about that. But here is really the bottom line. Inmarsat is hiding behind a ko antics 13. Let me read that. In their statement, they say we gave the raw data to the malaysian. We cant give to it the public. We cant do that. The reason theyre doing that its an International Airline agreement saying accredited representatives and their advisers will not divulge findings on the investigation without the express consent of the state conducting the investigation. Theyre saying we gave the raw data to malaysia. Malaysia is the only one that can release to it the world. First, antics 13 is a framework, o, not a hard and fast rule. Malaysia has played footloose and fancy free with it throughout this investigation. The preliminary report information given, not given. But here is the thing. Inmarsat claims that they turned it over to the malaysians. The malaysians say we dont have it. Inmarsat has it. And malaysian authorities did not expressly object to inmarsat releasing the information. So youre saying whether malaysia has it or not isnt the point. Inmarsat can release it. I say inmarsat now, if im their general counsel, im saying boys, you are now obligated to release the data. And they any argument that its proprietary, that inmarsat has some ownership rights, some trade secrets in releasing this raw data is also gone because they said today the truth is its not our data. So the bottom line is they are obligated in my judgment to release the data. The methodology is another issue. So miles, let me ask you about that. What would be holding them back at this point from releasing the raw data . Well, unfortunately, you almost get the sense that theyre stalling. Yes, you do. There is something in there that they dont want the world to see. And thats the problem. Thats why there is so little credibility right now about why this search zone has been identified. They keep saying the worlds best experts have looked at our data, and its fine. As far as im concerned, as Ronald Reagan said, trust but verify. Its time to do some verification. And frankly, the longer they stall, the more i think the world in general is not trusting what theyre saying. I mean, that seems to be the problem, arthur. Theyre now saying look, we gave these guys everything they wanted, and were hiding behind them the malaysians have to release it. Miles is saying its been called into question. It has been. A whole group of Scientists Say they think from the information they have that they could be looking in the wrong place. Give us the data, inmarsat. Just to do a takeoff on the stall issue, thing may be something to that. Mclaughlin said earlier in the week. Who is with inmarsat. Right. He is the executive vice president. He is a high level executive. Yes. He said we dont have a lot. All we have are seven data points. Those data points are critical. The frequencies, the relative speeds, the distances. They then analyze that and said the plane is down this in the southern indian ocean. Perhaps theyre concerned when we see the flimsy nature on the data on which all our hopes are based that were looking in the right area, we may have some second guesses about this. The bottom line is they are obligated now. There is no question about releasing this data. The real issue, how do we get them to do it . Maybe conversations like this one and, you know, and both you and miles making that point. Maybe they will. Thanks very much to both of you. Outfront next, our breaking News Coverage continues. More than 100,000 now forced to flee the violent wildfires in california. A fire captain is outfront, says the fires are growing more explosive by the instant. And the Zodiac Killer terrorized america there is a man who says he is the son of the killer. He is outfront. Predibut, manufacturings a prettin the United States do. Means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. 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Were trying to get those numbers so we can get them out to the public. And the explosive fire growth, we have been talking about the san marcos fire where youre only 5 contained. You think this is going to get significantly bigger . Were doing our best to get ahead of it. Just really, a firedriven and topography driven because we dont have the offshore santa ana winds. But just because of the fuel conditions and the heat, today was the hottest day of the week, were cautiously optimistic. Were really pushing hard to get ahead of this thing. And do you think that arson is to blame . We dont. Weve had unconfirmed reports and several different outlets that arson has been determined as the cause. I know thats not. Because theyre under investigation. Were working closely with San Diego County arson investigators. We do not have that as a cause of yet. Not yet. In terms of what will happen over the next few day, obviously, the growth being explosive in so many different fires so early in fire season, how afraid are you . Well, we are ready. In fact, for us to see fire conditions like this in may, its unheard of. Its unprecedented to see this type of weather and fuel conditions. But we prepare for that. Not only cal fire, but all the local operators in california have looked at the weather, and we were ready. We actually had prepositioned resources prior to these fires so we could hit them even harder. Captain mohler, thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us. And we wish you luck. Our breaking News Coverage on the wildfires raging out of control continues after this with more than 100,000 racing to escape the flames. As you can see, taking gigantic mansions down with them. Our reporters are on the ground with the latest. Plus, the Zodiac Killer suspected of killing 37 people. His identity still unknown. 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Please do not do that. From sdg e, they would like to tell you their main concern is public safety. Theyll ensure that the energy is brought back and gas as soon as they can. All right. Were going to keep monitoring that. I want to go to gary tuchman who is on the ground right now in san marcos where you just saw the fire chief and the assemblyman. Gary, this is the center of it. I was just talking to the fire chief who was saying this is its been explosive today, explosive growth in the fires. Erin, absolutely. When we came out this morning here in san marcos, we saw very little fire. And now behind me, you can see that blaze threatening even more homes. Houses have been destroyed in this suburb of san marcos. We just saw one destroyed about an hour ago. And that flame up there is a very big possibility to destroy more homes. The weather is supposed to improve tomorrow and this weekend. Its supposed to be much cooler. But right now it is very worrisome. Oh my god oh my god reporter multiple fires burning in San Diego County right now. The one concerning authorities the most, the san marcos fire, north of the city of san diego. Barely contained, houses have already been destroyed. The flames and the winds spread the ashes and embers, and thats what makes the fire spread. This area right here ten minutes ago, nothing at all. Now were seeing the smoke and the flames start to form. Its very likely that within the next couple of hours, these trees, this vegetation will be gone. Right down the hill from where im standing here in san marcos, california, which is northeast of san diego, this is the cal state san marcos campus. Its been around for a quarter century. It has now been evacuated. Theyre hoping that the fire does not spread down there. And in this area, within a fiveminute walk, there are hundreds of homes, businesses, condominiums, and lots of people. Firefighters thought they were starting to make headway, but then all of the sudden a fire tornado forms. A bizarre spectacle of nature. Its a whirlwind of flame caused by the turbulence of the wind and the intense heat. Seconds after we see the tornado, the fire starts blazing in new spots. The blaze is now very close to a neighborhood. Evacuated residents can only watch. Its scariest at the moment with a fire now like 100 yards from the homes. And i worry about the embers jumping into the grass next to the homes. Reporter its frightening . It is, very. Reporter the winds continue to increase. The fire is flaring up, getting even closer to the houses. Helicopters swoop in with water drops. Firefighters work on the ground with precision and professionalism. And at least for now, they have met success. The flames have not reached the houses. And gary, seeing these pictures, they really are its like youre seeing hell flames. Are these some of the worst fires you have ever seen . Youve covered a lot. Yeah, erin. Ive seen fires this bad and worse. What is very unique, though, about these fires is the suddenness of them. Yesterday when people woke up here, there was very little fire. People werent concerned. Within a couple of hours, they had a catastrophe on their hands. This morning, it got better. And then it got much worse quickly. And it shows you how dangerous this is, that between 12 noon and 1 00 p. M. , we saw the situation go from a little bit of fire to a tremendous outbreak of fires and incredible danger. And thats what were facing as we speak to you right now. Gary tuchman, thank you very much. Were continuing to monitor that situation. Well check back in. But now, for nearly 50 years, the Zodiac Killer has remained a mystery. It was a case that captivated america because its never been solved. My next guest is gary stewart, the man who says he is the son of the Zodiac Killer. He is going to join me in just a minute. But first, here is is the Zodiac Killers story. It appears to us that he is kill just for the thrill. Reporter the Zodiac Killer terrorized San Francisco in the late 60s, Taunting Police with coded messages and claims of dozens of murders. Killing is his compulsion. Reporter the case is so bizarre and notorious, it inspired a hollywood movie in 2007 featuring Robert Downey jr. And jake gyllenhaal. This Zodiac Killer has come to San Francisco. Reporter more than 40 years later, the mystery has never been solved. And now one man claims to have indisputable evidence. He knows who the killer is. Gary stewart, author of the new memoir the most dangerous animal of all says the serial killer is his father. Earl van best jr. Stewart, a louisiana businessman made the startling discovery after a tenyear search helped him identify best as his biological father. This photo shows a striking resemblance between best and a sketch of the Zodiac Killer. Gary stewarts father died in 1984. But he says Forensic Experts have matched his fathers handwriting to cryptic notes the killer left behind. So far San Francisco police have not reviewed the book, but they have investigated and cleared more than 2500 other suspects. The killer claims he murdered as many as 37 people. But the evidence, including letters and cards the killer sent to the press and swatches of bloody clothe having baffled detectives. As of today the Zodiac Killer has only been officially connected to five deaths. I see him pull his knife and just kind of in one fell swoop, i feel the knife buried in my back. Reporter Bryan Hartnell was stabbed eight times while he was picnicking with his girlfriend. In 2007, he spoke to cnns dan simon about the attacker. He had some clipon glasses that were either affixed to the hood or affixed to glasses underneath. The circle on the chest was a perfectly formed circle. Reporter in an email to cnn, hartnell says he is skeptical about this latest claim saying there has been no time in the last 40plus years when someone was not stirring the pot. Gary stewart, the author of the most dangerous animal of all searching for my father and finding the Zodiac Killer. You write in the book about the revelation. You had been looking for your biological you found your mother. She led you to your father, and you got a picture of him. You see this picture, and youre sitting around and watching a e. And what happened . The wanted poster from 1969 from San Francisco Police Department flashes on the screen, and my heart stops. And i think i let out an audible scream, noise. And my son zach comes out of his room and looks at me fixed on the television. And he says hey, dad, its you. And i walked back to my office where i had the only photo ive ever had of my father, which i was told was an old dmv photo. But it turned out to be his 1962 mug shot for his rape of my mother. And i said no, son, its not me. Its my father. Its your father. Then you start investigating to find out if this is really true. We just showed you the images side by side, obviously. Lets talk about some of the other evidence. The handwriting. You actually took the time to compare your parents your father, i guess, coerced your mother into a quote unquote marriage, but that meant there was a certificate. So you had handwriting. Right. You compared that to the handwriting of the Zodiac Killer. The Zodiac Killer is on the left there, right . And then this is an overlay with your fathers handwriting. Correct. Lieutenant John Hennessey had asked me years before, gary, do you have any handwriting from your father. And i didnt recall that i did. I had forgotten that my mother had given me had given me a copy of their marriage certificate. And i wasnt until after i had been swabbed by the San Francisco Police Department that my coauthor Susan Mustafa asked again just two years ago, do you have any handwriting from your father. And i said i do. And thats when you realized. Now, lets show one more piece of evidence. And let me ask you then what skeptics say this. Is actually the cryptic letters the Zodiac Killer wrote. He wrote the letters in code and would send them. They were never able to interpret it. They did not know your fathers name. Obviously you know that. So when you look at this, the highlight there, if you can see, ev best jr. The Zodiac Killer insisted to the police if you crack this cipher, you will have my identity. They cracked the cipher and got the cryptic message, but they didnt know what name to look for. Because they didnt they didnt know your fathers name. Right. Thats there. There are some out there that the San Francisco chronicle has been covering this story says look, ive got drawers full of evidence, people that claim they know who the Zodiac Killer. What do you say to those critics . How can you know . I believe for the first time in the history of this case that i have presented more evidence that has ever been presented on any one suspect and had the belief of the head of homicide behind me at one time. So how does it make you feel, if this is true and your father was a serial killer . Do you ever worry . Does it make you wonder about who you are, what kind of person you are . I mean, its got to be a really bizarre things. Erin, of course i get asked that question quite a bit. But ive had 12 years now on my journey. In the past ten realizing what ive discovered. For me, its personal. Try to disassociate myself from the serial killer side of my father. He laid me on a doorstep and walked away. He abandoned you. Yes. So for me, i can compartmentalize my feelings and my hurt and focus on that when all this other stuff tends to get all the attention. So police told you theyre going to look into this . The San Francisco police, look into your claim . The media said that if he has any information, please come forward. And i believe ive come forward. All right. Well see how they respond. Thank you very much for coming on and sharing your story. Thanks for having me. And of course, in the book you can see all of the case that gary lays out. Still outfront, Hillary Clinton hits the campaign trail, but not for herself. Working hard for a Clinton Family member you may not know about, but you should. And what is the strangest thing . Look down right now. I found a quarter in my couch the other day, and frankly, some loose popcorn and old pretzels. Thats probably what you might find. But our next guest, they found 40,000. Well be back. Awesome, amazing, thats epic, bro. Whatever happened to good . 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Reese, just tell me how this happened. You guys buy this couch, and then how did you find the money . We were just sitting on it one night, and we watched. We were watching harry potter. We just finished watching harry potter. And we were feeling up the couch. It felt all lumpy like it was full of plastics bags or something. Which isnt surprising because we got it from Salvation Army. So we lift it up. Right under here there is a zipper. We unzip it all the way, and we pull out this wad. It was just in a bubble wrapped container. And were like oh my god. This might be drugs or this might be money. Were getting scared about it. So we open up the plastic bag, and were freaking out. Its a stack of 100 bills, an inch and a half tall. And me and lara are shaking. We run in and we go see cally on the bed. And then we just count it out. The first envelope was 4,000. Oh, my gosh. Lara, what went through your head . Youre thinking wait, im watching harry potter, that is the fantasy in the television screen, right here, right . Yeah, enough magic for one night. Yeah, i was needing to immediately lock the doors like this is dirty money. Somebody is after us. And then we found 4,000 at fir first, but there kept being more envelopes. It was a little fun it was scary. We had no idea where it came from. So kelly, at that moment, im just thinking how did you guys as college kids none of this stuff fell out . I mean it is kind of incredible, it got all the way to you and you had not found any of it . Yeah, and especially lara had been sitting on the couch for a longer period of time, and she had said she felt it being lumping, and we checked for what was behind all that. And then there was a name on one of the envelopes, how do you track down the woman, it ends up being a woman whose couch it was . Well, my mom was very involved in the whole process. So what happened was i called my mom like anybody in a moral dilemma would do. Im like mom, you would never believe what i found, im going to get you a car immediately she hears cara and says we have to find out where this money is going. She texted me the woman, and i got into contact with her the next day. It was probably 12 hours after that and what did she say . At least according to police, this is not drug money, where did it come from . Yeah, so i called her and you know the first time i was really nervous, right, so i dont know what im dealing with. So i call her and say like is this the womans name on the envelope. And she says yes. I just hang up immediately. This just became really real. So i obviously called her back because i remembered, you know we said like if this woman is alive. If this woman is alive, essentially she is getting her money back, so that was the next step into and i know it turned out, but she and her husband had sort of been stashing the money in there. She is older. You all did an incredible thing. Before we go, lara, any of you regret giving the money back . I know all of you thought, college debts, not my problem anymore. Well, i think that played into the decision, like were all financially stable not dealing with college debt. And i think all of us were under the understanding that even if we spent it, we wouldnt feel good about it. We would have felt we took something that was not ours. It didnt make sense, it was her money, she deserved it. And somehow, the money was always an extra thought and you know spending any of that money would have just seemed completely ridiculous given the circumstances. It would have been a loss you all did the right thing, and thank you very much for sharing your story. Enjoy that couch. Yeah, thank you. At least it wont be lumpy anymore. All right, well be right back with a new story after the break on Hillary Clinton. All stations come over to mission a for a final go. This is for real this time. Step seven point two one two. Verify and lock. Command is locked. Five seconds. Three, two, one. Standing by for capture. The most Innovative Software on the planet. Dragon is captured. Is connecting todays leading companies to places beyond it. Siemens. Answers. Well be here at lifelock doing our thing you do your share spontaneous moments thing, alerting you in ways your bank alone cant. Get lifelock protection and live life free. Hillary clinton back in campaign mode, headlining a fundraiser for daughter Chelsea Clintons motherinlaw. This is not just any motherinlaw. She has a long history with the clintons, Gloria Borger reports. I wouldnt be here if her son was not my soninlaw. She is marjorie margoles, her son happens to be married to chelsea clinton, chelsea is now expecting a baby. And her mom may be running for president. Your son has married into a political dynasty. What is that like . It is surprisingly normal. That depends on how you define normal. Because the back story of the two families is anything but. Im not saying vote for her because 20 years ago she saved the economy. She also saved clintons presidency, it was 1993. Clintons defining economic plan was on the house floor and about to die. The republicans were highfiving, saying it is going down. She was a holdout, a philadelphia freshman who had won by just over a thousand votes. A lot of democrats were talking about changing their vote. That is when the president called. And i said and i will only be your last vote. I know how important this is. He hung up and then watched her from the white house. As we all gather around this little onefoot 13 inch screen and watch the vote, she walked down the aisle and cast the vote. And republicans stood there and said goodbye, marjorie. The vote was needed. Im quite sure he knew that that was a political death nell. And it was. I do not regret my vote, nor do i apologize for it. There was a lot of hostility in that room. Hostility that sent her packing. Fast forward, now the district has been redrawn and it is solidly democratic. So she is at it again locked in a tight primary as an advocate for abortion rights and the middle class. Is this a little bit the politics of redemption, to a degree . Im not sure, i think it would be more resiliency. I dont have any retirement skills. She spent the last two decades on womens issues both outside and inside politics. Inside capitol hill, is it there . Well, first, i think it has to be addressed. Do you think women have a harder time still, running . When i was running in the 90s i always got questions as to who is taking care of your children. And even if the questions are not asked, theyre there. In this campaign she started as the big name frontrunner and has been attacked on campaign finances, for coasting early on and for her use of a valuable asset. The clintons. He seems like a great guy but everything he is talking about happened in the past. We always knew that if they came in too much, we would be blamed for their coming in too much. If they didnt come in enough that people would say they didnt come in enough. Youre kind of damned if you do, and damned if you dont. They have done everything we asked them to do and i am running on what i have accomplished in the last 20 years. And not on my affiliation with the clintons. Reporter but she is not exactly running away from them either. And this district will be well served if you elect her. Reporter did she consult with the former president about running . I called and he said i think it is a good idea. But that is pretty much it. Reporter she is even more guarded if you dare to ask some personal questions about life in the Clinton Family. It is just an area that i will not get into. I they are lovely. The clintons couldnt be any nicer. Reporter are you going to talk about what it is going to be like to be cograndmother in chief . No. Reporter after four decades in the public eye, margoles knows how to stay on message, even when it is Hillary Clinton. Is there any doubt in your mind she is running . She has said she has made up her mind, and i take her at her word. So . She has said that she has made up her mind and i take her at her word. Gloria borger, cnn, philadelphia. And thank you for joining us, anderson starts now. Hey, good evening, thank you for joining us. We begin tonight with breaking news from Southern California where wildfires are threatening thousands of homes and have burned about 10,000 acres so far. Dozens of fires raging overnight is now down to eight fires, forcing tens of thousands of people from their homes, and amid the chaos people are capturing very intense pictures that really tell the story of what it is like across san diego