0 company said the response was so negative, the commercials were being taken off the air immediately. good evening. tonight the unbelievable words of a man who says he's not a monster. and the proud, brave words of one of the three women to whom he was precisely that. a captor, a torturer, a rapist, a killer, in short, a monster. the three endured all of that year after year, held captive by ariel castro in his torture chamber in cleveland, ohio. they were victimized but they're not victims. amanda, gina and michelle are survivors. calling them a monster's victim gives far too much credit to the monster. he needs to be forgotten, but there's plenty of time for that. he got a live sentence plus 1,000 years. that's what a judge gave him after hearing powerful testimony from michelle knight and a delusional account from mr. castro. it's rare to hear someone justify their crimes. today in court, on live television, we saw just that. >> all of the sex practically was consensual. these allegations about me is totally wrong. there were times they would even ask me for sex, many times. >> a lot of harmony going on in that home, that's what he said. we're going to look closer at whatever inside someone's mind makes them say something like that. but first, pamela brown with today's sentencing hearing. >> from this moment on, i will not let you define me or affect who i am. >> reporter: a resolute michelle knight confronted her former tormenter head-on for the first time since escaping captivity. >> you took 11 years of my life away. and i have got it back. i spent 11 years in hell. now your hell is just beginning. i will overcome all this that happened. but you will face hell for eternity. >> reporter: when it was ariel castro's turn, he refused to take responsibility for what he did. but at one point he did attempt to apologize. >> i am truly sorry to michelle and amanda and the dejesus family. you guys know all the harmony that went on in that home. >> reporter: castro also denied physically and sexually abusing the women. >> most of the sex that went on in the house, practically all of it was consensual. these allegations about me forcing upon them, that is totally wrong. >> reporter: he even tried to justify his behavior. >> they're trying to paint me as a monster, and i'm not a monster. i'm sick. my sexual problem has been so bad on my mind. >> reporter: over defense objections, prosecutors presented a detailed reconstruction of what the women endured for a decade inside castro's home, using a model of his house and showing these photos of their rooms, with boarded up windows and rusty chains, even describing how the girls were abducted, including the moment when he lured his first victim, michelle knight, inside his house. >> he takes her down to the basement where she's physically restrained with a chain, plastic ties are put on her wrist and a motorcycle helmet is placed on her head. it is at this time she's sexually assaulted. >> reporter: and on the day she was rescued. >> she launched herself in the officer's arms. legs, arms, just choking him, just repeating, you saved us, you saved us. >> reporter: family members spoke for the other two women. >> she's doing better every day. to ariel castro -- [ speaking spanish ] >> reporter: in the end, the women relied on each other for survival and are drawing on the same strength that helped them survive so many years in captivity. >> gina was my friend. my friendship with her is the only good thing that came out of this. we said we will some day make it out alive, and we did. >> pamela brown joins us now from cleveland. what struck you the most today in court? watching this, i found it -- i don't think i had ever seen anything like this, hearing this man who we're going to hear more from experts ahead. but his -- i mean, he seems to be a psychopath that actually believes these things he was saying. >> he seems delusional. it was jaw dropping, anderson. i've been cover thing story from the beginning. i was in the courtroom with ariel castro from the beginning. at that time he had his head down, he wouldn't say anything to the judge, wouldn't make eye contact with anyone. he just looked really ashamed. then today it was like he was a different person. it was in stark contrast to how he was before. he was looking around, leaping back in his share, even interrupting the judge. of course, we heard his bizarre rambling speech. so there were two sides of him it seemed. but there were some poignant moments that struck me. it was powerful to see michelle knight's steely resolve. if you asked me who i would have thought would have testified today, i wouldn't have said michelle knight from the beginning. she has the toughest recovery but yet today she faced her tormenter head on and she stayed there at the sentencing through the end of it. the family representatives for the other two victims left the courtroom, but michelle knight stayed there as ariel castro attempted to apologize and justify his behavior. so it was incredible to see that. even the judge pointed out her remarkable courage and in her soft spoken voice, she said, you're welcome. it was a light hearted moment in what was a very emotionally charged day. anderson? >> you can't attempt to apologize in one breath and the next breath justify your behavior and say this was consensual sex. joining us now former federal prosecutor jeffrey toobin, mark geragos, and dr. drew penske. mary ellen o'toole, did he act today like you would have expected from someone like him, someone who has done the things he's done? i just want to play for our viewers something else he said about these women and how they got into his vehicle. let's play that. >> she got into my vehicle and -- [ inaudible ] i'm not a monster. >> he is blaming the victims here, the survivors here. >> he's absolutely blaming the three survivors. he's taking no responsibility for his behavior. and that's very classic psychopathy. we were witnessing a classic psychopath. >> you have no doubt about that, that he's a psychopath. >> he's not out of touch from reality, the rules don't apply for him, and the hallmark again is this inability to empathize or feel guilt. it was all about him today, all about him. >> mary ellen, the forensic psychiatrist that the prosecution brought in, you know him, explain what he meant when he said there's no mental illness here. >> i do know him and have worked with him for years. what he meant by that was, there was no mental defect in this individual based on his opinion, and that meant that there is no debilitating mental illness that caused him to act this way because he was delusional or psychotic. he completely knew right from wrong, and he engaged in these behaviors willingly. he knows the rules. they don't apply. so there was -- there's no mental defect. he was not out of touch with reality. >> so he's a psychopath, you believe, but he wasn't out of touch with reality? >> a psychopath is not a mental illness. it's a personality disorder. we sometimes confuse those two, but someone who is mentally ill may not understand the nature or the consequences of their actions. not the case with ariel castro. >> dr. drew, what do you think? >> i agree 100% with what she's saying here. we're seeing the human being really in its worst form. this is about as bad as humans can get. he's not only a monster, he is also sick. he may have also had sex addiction and people with sex addiction will distort their victims. in other words, i've seen sex addicts who tell me that a 4-year-old was coming on to them. what were they supposed to do? >> but the idea that this guy blaming an addiction, when he said that, you know, you just -- it's like, what? give me a break. a porn addiction led him to this? >> absolutely it's ridiculous. it's an explanation for some of the things you're trying to get your head around, but it's not a justification, and it doesn't diminish what mary ellen was saying about this being a full-fledge psychopath. >> i want to say what he said right there. let's play this. >> i believe i am addicted to porn, to the porn that really makes me impulsive. and i just don't realize that porn was wrong. i'm not trying to make excuses me. >> every time he said i'm not trying to make excuses, you can just take out the "i'm not trying to" and just stay making excuses. >> his point of view beg nos alternative. even if it is an illness is used to justify unjustifiable behavior. i see the astonishment on your face, anderson. it is astonishing when you hear how a psychopath thinks and don't seem to be able to understand that. >> that's why i think it was important to actually listen and see this guy's face, because it's rare to actually see a psychopath -- you see them in movies and stuff. but this is apparently seems like a true psychopath and just the coldness of it, it was just stunning to watch. you found it hard to watch. >> the coldness of it reminded me a good deal of jerry sandusky, that self-pity, calmness. my reaction was a line from the great gasbi, conduct may be founded on the hard rock or the wet marshes, but after a certain point, i don't care what it's founded on. i didn't care what his problems were, i didn't want to listen to him. i guess it was a public service to broadcast it, but i found it -- >> mark, were you surprised he was allowed to talk as long as he did in that courtroom? >> no. could i just weigh in here from my perspective? i'm not an addiction specialist and i'm not going to quote "the great gasbi." from my stand point, this was a spectacle. i've represented people who are as delusional or didn't have any insight into what they were doing and they justify it, because that's how the human mind works. it's rare for somebody to fall on the sword and have the kind of insight that you would need to not do this kind of thing. but that having been said, the idea that this thing was televised and that the prosecutors gave this guy this opportunity, and then started to act, i thought, in a crazy manner banding about thousands of years, lay people who aren't in the court system take a look at this, and i think they get the most skewed version. and if anybody thinks that this in any way, shape or form resembles what happens in a courtroom, except for, you know, the fact that you're processing people who are very, very sick, it's a caricature. i think it's unfortunate. >> mark, i think there was a political problem that the prosecutors were dealing with. there was tremendous desire to see the death penalty in this case. and the prosecutors had to persuade the public they were not letting this guy off easy. i think they made they had to persuade the 06 a psycho faipat and say there are psychopaths among us. this is what it looks like. i know there was one part of his speech that sent a chill up your spine. i want to play that. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> i mean, i could not believe this guy is saying these things. >> and that's -- if you can imagine, that's what we hear during an interview, and that's what i think the detective was talking about today when he talked about how he set up an interview. you have to be nonjudgmental and be prepared for this onslaught of information and you cannot sit there and say, no, i can't believe you're telling me this, because you want them to talk. you want them to tell you what happened. even though your head is spinning like in the "exorcist." it is stunning. it is shocking. but this is what a psychopathic predator is like. >> dr. drew, the fact that he's sitting in prison watching youtube videos of the women that he abused for years and years. how is that possible? >> i don't know what the prison allows but it makes your head to spin to think about this guy and his behavior. it's unbelievable. but i think, mark, humbly i disagree. i think they've done a public service by looking at this guy. they tend to be manipulative, charming. they are in many of our lives. you cannot believe what many people say, and if you see any evidence that someone is behaving inappropriately, you must act, no matter what they say, and really be suspicious. a lot of people have sociopath and psychopathic tendencies. and you're looking in the face of it tonight. there it is. that's how they think. they don't understand emotions. they only act as if they had emotions. >> you know, i think that's a good point, dr. drew. you put that guy in a suit and he could be a college professor, he could be any that you run across. >> he's got a job, he functions in society, therefore, i'm final. there are a lot of people like that in this country. >> dr. drew, appreciate you being on, thank you very much. let us know what you think. next, what the three survivors are going through now and the years of healing ahead of them. later, to russia we go. i'm talk to edward snowden's father, lon snowden, and why he thinks russia is the best place for his son. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn?