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Chris Cuomo asks the tough questions to newsmakers in Washington and around the world. In the russia probe. S your head is nodding. Do you adopt the same position . Absolutely. The question here as mentioned was the nature of his communications with the Russian Hackers. This indictment against the 12 officers mentioned. This was more about passing statement. There could be more behind it that these Russian Hackers were in contact with the person reported to be roger stone in terms of soliciting feedback and that roger stone boasted he had contact with wikileaks alleged in this indictment coordinated with the russian hacker. This is a big problem for roger stone if he helped them in any way he could be a part of that. One thing i do want to note an agreement to the objective of the bigger enterprise. In this case to hack into these emails and use it and to do one overt act in furtherance of that. You dont have to know everything about the conspiracy or be a part of everything. You can be part of you can be liable for the entire conspiracy if you help it along and you know its happening. There has to be an underlying crime there. The question is, what if Anything Else was happening and was that a crime. In other words, was a u. S. Citizen or anybody associated with the campaign in any way involved in the hacking. Did they request it. Sent a great response to their analysis. Cant have him testify, its perjury. Its a legal situation in which a prosecutor calls the witness to catch them lying in a statement not for a previous crime. Perjury is just when you materially give an untrue statement under oath in response to a specific question. He made an interesting analogy. He said they are afraid of the latter. They are calling it the former. A perjury trap. They are just worried about perjury in general and make it look like hes a victim. Fair point . I dont think thats a fair point. Youre looking at a crime like obstruction of justice, the intent of the person that may have obstructed justice is really key. I think theres a very legitimate reason for robert mueller to want to get from trump his own version of what happened. Now, theres a legitimate republic reason. He doesnt commit personal jury tells the truth. Theyll set him up by having other people they decide to believe instead of him. That is the problem. You believe thats legitimate risk . Perjury trap is shorthand for the perils of any citizen facing the government in an interview. I think our viewers should imagine themselves sitting in front of a line of my friend who is going to question them vigoro vigorously. Going to write down everything they say and focus on the nuances. There are very few people who can survivor that even if they are telling the truth. I found, in particular, Business People who are used to be if charge have problems in that setting. Public figures have lots of problems in that setting. Its a very, very difficult thing. Perjury trap is shorthand for that notion. Final point. Lets remember, false statements which is what it would be in this case because it probably wouldnt be under oath. It has to be a intentional misrepresentation on an intention fact. Does fact that you happen to be someone who is large and in charge for a long time used to getting away with lies is not really an excuse or reason to be able to lie. High dollar criminal defense attorney. Thats what you are. We need to perspective and the arguments. Thank you very much. Love to have you. Thank you for being with me on a friday night. This kansas democrat beat five opponents and beating people up is nothing new for her. She won fuses primary. Its only part of what makes a very special story. Look at her. She looks like shes never been hit. If she wins in november, she will be a first on many different levels. 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The establishment crowd versus the progressive liberal and socialist wing. As the midterms near, one person who can help define the partys future is named sharice davids. Davids beat out five challengers in a district that Hillary Clinton barely won. Shes now hoping to unseat republican kevin yoder who is supported, endorsed by President Trump. Davids is an attorney, a former mma fighter. She would be first lesbian Native American congresswoman. Welcome to primetime. Thanks for having me. Im excited to be here. You represent a lot of potential firsts. What does that mean to you . You know, i was raised by a single mom who served in the army for 20 years. She taught me a hard work ethic. I use that work ethic to go from Johnson County Community College right here in the Third District to cornell to law school and being a first means that im tyking all the opportunities i was able to have here in the Third District and i want to make sure that every one else have the same kind of opportunities that i have. Infieg ighting, you were not of the candidates backed by the Bernie Sanders part of party but the idea of ultra progressive, ultra left. Most of your positions are traditional centrists democrat. Is that where you think the party should be . W why . Its an interesting conversation about where the Democratic Party is. Im spending a lot of my time listening to the people of Third District. Its important to me as someone who is trying to be a represent tifr of this place, of my community that i listen to the folks here and making sure when i get to congress that im a strong voice and advocate for the things we really feel like need to be addressed. I hear you on that. Affordable Quality Health care. Like how with the Affordable Health care. I get the issue. Its an issue everywhere. However, how you do it and how that represents what your party is about matters also and it seems like whether its you or what we see with connor lamb is that at the end of the day, if democrats may not be on the same page about major policy situations. The thing were interested here in the Third District and what i hear every single time i talk to me is were interested in making sure we have a representative that wants to get things down. We have a congress that hasnt been doing that and a representative that hasnt been doing that. The Third District is interested in having a democratic because Hillary Clinton won this district and we really want to make sure that were electing someone who is going to be a voice for the things that we care about. Representative yoder, who will be your opponent said something about you. Lets play it. Right now it looks like the race for the democratic nomination is down to a two horse race with the two most radical candidates left in the field. Both of these candidates want to turn back the clock on all of our progress. They think with this growing economy needs is radical liberalism and radical socialism. Neither of them are from here and both want to force their radical ideas. They dont know kansas. They dont know our values and neither of them should be our voice in washington, d. C. What do you think he means when he says you dont know the values of kansas and that you are not from this place . Im sure you could tell i was laughing while that was playing. It really is laughable that someone who really has seen so much opportunity in my life because of the foundation that ive had from Johnson County community cleollege. We have one of the best Community Colleges and we have great public schools. If what he means by rolling things back, if hes talking about the Tax Experiments and the danimage its done to schoo here, yeah i want to roll that back. Do you think hes making a more personal statement about what you represent personally . No. I cant tell what hes talking about. I think that all i can do is continue to represent and speak to and listen to the people of this district. If Lyistening The People Doesn strike kevin yoder as being kansas values, i think he might be confused about kansas values. I have to talk about something because it marriy matters to matters to me. I love mma. I do mostly selfdefense but i love it. You were good in the ring. You decided to use your head in a different way but what did you learn in the ring that guides how you are outside the ring . I would say discipline. You know when youre a martial artist and im very proud of work i put into being a martial artist, the key skill that you learn to harness is discipline. Using the discipline ive learned to progress through my life and figure out ways that i can take the skill sets that im picking up across the board whether its educational or professional experience, the discipline i took from being a martial artist has really helped me not just professionally but in this campaign. Once a fighter, always a fighter. You got a big fight in front of you. Well be following what happens wth your party. It will be a very interesting watch. Thank you for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. As you know by now there was some fierce blow back after Laura Ingraham trashed immigrants and warned of massive demographic changes in america. Shes trying to walk back her words but was she just taking her cue from the president . Ever voted for and most of us dont like. Thank you for ta thank you for taking the opportunity to come on the show. Laura pointed to massive demographic changes. That means one thing, people. If she wasnt talking about ethnic and race, what kind of people was she talking about . I dont know. There are changes going on all across the country. I know she is concerned about immigration. Shes an advocate for Legal Immigration and wants to stop the ilLegal Immigration. Shes been focused on the sanction sanctua sanctuary cities. Thats what she has been focused on. S two things. She mentioned Legal Immigration as a problem and i dont think we can just dismiss with i dont know what heshes talking about when she talk about the people involved. Just because she says she didnt mean it, doesnt mean she doesnt mean it. The truth is aside also. She didnt mean what . When she says i dont mean race, she had to mean that because thats the only thing demographic changes can be, people. Okay. I mean, yes. I guess that is right. What are you saying . Im saying she should own what she said which is that certain kinds of people make her feel uncomfortable. That she doesnt see them as part of the america that she knows and loves. I dont think thats a problem for her having admitted that because thats what this country is. Krou cant ta you cant take the immigrants out of this country. We are a melting pot. I completely agree. I know she has no problem with that. She has daughter she adopted from guatemala. She actually just took a trip back there in 2016 with her daughter to feed the poor and the less fortunate. Shes done why is so worried about the massive demographic changes if she loves guatemala so much . I cant speak for her. What youre insinuating is shes racist. No, no. What im saying if she doesnt believe that having brown people here and people of different races and from different places is a problem, then she shouldnt have said it, but she did. If she had a problem with that, why would she have adopted a child i think you can certainly do both things. I think you can adopt a child and to be honest, you brought that up. I didnt. I want to stick to policy positions. I do think you can in one case see a child an want to love them and give them a better life and at the same time hold general opinions about the people who are coming into your country from that place. It seems thats the case with laura. This is the thing is your entitled to your police chibeli. She has shown that she cares about people of color by the work shes done. Lets i like to judge people by their actions. Maybe she meant something and didnt say it so artfully or gracefully. The thing is her action shows that she cares about those people. What she is concerned about is the ilLegal Immigration in this country that people are pouring across our borders. You have kate murdered in san francisco. You have this grandmother in front of her grandchild and her grand child is beheaded by the ms13 gang. We can go on and on. You cant. Thats part of the problem. There are certainly horrible cases of terrible crimes performed, committed by Illegal Immigrants, but its also true that illegal entrance commit less crime than the rest of us. To make them a boogie man and suggest they are in the main gang banger, homicidal. Ms13 is a real problem. And so is the mexican faf ma and the latin kings. You only go afterthe ones that have to do with immigrants. Why . What were talking about is legal versus ilLegal Immigration. Follow the law. We are a nation of immigrants. She said Legal Immigration bothers her as well and she put out a follow up poll that said peep want people want it cut. The president says the same thing again and again. They are sepnding the worst, ba people, bad hombre coming from over there. Its not true. Its Poisoning Perspective on who we are in this country. P thwhen i came to cnn nrkcn go into the strict security process. Neither does the united states. They do. They come across or border. Come through the legal way. If you want to come here, thats great. Apply, go through the process and come here the legal way. We wont have a problem with it. I dont know thats true, by the way. Theres nothing wrong with saying the law should be respected. Theres nothing wrong with saying you must secure your borders. I have yet to have somebody on this show who said not me. Im for open borders. You love making that argument. Ive never had anyone say it. There are some people who say it. Ive never had anybody on the left an Office Holder who has been accused of being that way who had admitted it. What im saying is this. Youre talking about Legal Immigration as well. Thats why this story about the president s inlaws that he wants make out laws. He wants to call chain migration. Its called Family Reunification for a good reason. Generations of people have come here, made themselves established and help bring other family in. Thats how our country as grown. Now you want to change what were all about. No. The thing is we are a melting pot. We all came here from somewhere else. That is a great thing about this country. Do it legally. Thats all were asking. Theres nothing wrong with that. Dont try to make us look bad for those that support Legal Immigration fp that immigration. Youre trying the make us look bad. Theres nothing wrong with supporting Legal Immigration versus opposing illegal. Im not a bad person because i want Legal Immigration. Amy, have i called you a bad person . No. Have i suggested youre a bad person . No. The thing is we are being made out to like were racists and bad people. I understand that you may feel that way. Two points. Dont to what youre krit sicrig which is accuse me of may be happening with others. Im not doing that to you. Second, its absolutely okay to be in favor of Legal Immigration. I would argue thats changing on your side of the ball. You want less people in, you want them from less places. The president said he wants less diversity. More from norway and thats what raises the criticism. I appreciate you coming on and youre welcome back. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Have good week. You too. Senate republicans are fearful that democrats may take an open seat in arizona if either of the two conservative candidates wins. You heard that right. The gop is nervous about conservative candidates. One of them is dr. Kelly ward. Shes here to make the case, next. Only fidelity offers two zero Expense Ratio index funds directly to investors. And now we have zero account fees for brokerage accounts. At fidelity, those zeros really add up. Maybe ill win, Saved By Zero they try to create fear if the miepds of the voter thinking we have to settle for what we have. I say the status quo has got to go. The people of arizona are the ones i really want their endorsement. More than trump . Hes become the Golden Ticket like willy wonka. Unfortunately, President Trump doesnt have a vote in arizona. You know that donald trump being behind you is the Golden Ticket. I love that because i love the movie. You got to want it. Of course. I think that having the support of the president as a republican in a time when were going to have a heat wave and bring the heat to drain the swamp, of course it would be wonderful to have the president on board. Owe know, its not the most important endorsement. The most important endorsement is the people of arizona who want a thoughtful, effective, results oriented leader with a proven track record of success. Im the only one in the race that has those credentials. Why are you better than joe arpaio . I have a proven track record. When i was in the state senate i got 19 bills signed into law based on excellent policy. Not on political pandering or any kind of extreme partisanship. Great policy i brought forward. People on both sides of the aisle agree it would be good for the people they represent. Theyre tired of the gridlock. Theyre tired of head butting. They want someone to go there. You and arpaio have been coupled often in different analysis of the race. Youre both attributed with the same plus and minus. They have a tendency to demonize the Immigrant Pop Youlatiulatio source them as a huge problem. Do you think thats fair treatment of you . I dont. People who come here illegally really have it has affected every aspect of our society. Not just arizona but across the entire nation. Its not just an arizona border crisis. It affects education. It affects health care. Ive seen as a physician up close and personal. Education as a mom its affected public safety. Its affected corrections. All of those things are affected by ilLegal Immigration which is why im such a staunch supporter of border security. Do you believe most Illegal Immigrants are criminals, bad people . I dont. I heard you taublking earlier oa clip of your family and how they got here. My family came the same way. My grandparents came from hungary and poland. They were fleeing communism. They couldnt survive. They came through this great land. They came the right way. Both my grandfathers became coal miners. They did that so my parents could become teachers. My parents worked hard so my brother and i could become doctors. Thats the american dream. I want people to experience that. I want people to be able to experience that. I want them to come the right way. The reason we need a wall is we need a symbol of a right and wrong way to come in. Its a pretty expensive symbol. A will the of people think it wouldnt work. Ten foot wall, 11foot ladder. My opponent says walls dont work. Were never going to have one. One of my favorite president s, great american, conservative, happy warrior. He granted amnesty and trusted congress to secure the border. It didnt happen then and its not going to happen now. What you said earlier about the dream, a lot of people who come illegally have that same dream. They work themselves to death here and they get paid sub par wages and a lot of industries here and a lot of households here are dependent on thep am a they show they are a benefit as well as how you would define them. The second part is Legal Immigration is under attack by people in your party as well. Donald trump, specifically wants to limit immigration legally in way that would have kept his own inlaws out of this country. Thats not embracing the same spirit of inclusion that we see at the foot of the statue of the liberty. Fair point. I think that people need to come here the right way. I think that proposed the you trying to limit who can come the right way. Were trying to change the system. Limit. Its right now its so bogged down by the people who have come here illegally. In my state, the federal court dockets are clogged with people have come back through illegal reentry again and again and again. I just talked to a man yesterday. He came here from brazil as a teenager, the right way. His participants caents came he. It took him 19 years to obtain this citizenship. Thats too long. Weve got to be able to get people to come in who will be sat assets. You should be against Trump Administration policy they are trying to put through that men like him who are here on a visa that could be approved or not renewed, if theres any sign they used the government benefit like the earned Income Tax Credit or anyone related to them, they can be nixed. What an unfair thing to do. Do you agree with that . I dont think thats what he was on. I think its something we have to look at. When people come to our country for economic benefit that is paid for by the taxpayer thats something thats unacceptable to most people across the country. They want to be pros roperous o their own. They want them to have skills to take care of themselves to experience the joy and success of having their own job and their families. We have to look at all of those signs because its not fair to burden the american taxpayer with people who come into our country. Remember, as we heard from the ceos the other day, they just a burden. Not only are immigrants the people that built this country but now you have ceos asking the president to give them more. Dr. Ward, thank you for making the case. Well be following your race very closely. Thank, chris. Great to be here. President trump ramping up tensions with turkey and nato allie allies. Well get after this growing crisis with Counter Terrorism analyst. Theres more to it than you may know. For the Digital Divide is splitting this country. We have parents who are trying to get their kids off of too much social media and computers, and then we have parents who would only hope their children have access. Middle school is a really key transition point, right. The stakes start changing. Students begin to really start thinking about their futures. 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Right here. Right now. Humira. Trump today announced the doubling of steel and aluminum tariffs on Turkey Warning our relations with turkey are not good at this time. So what does turkeys leader do . He gets on the phone with russian president vladimir putin. What does this mean . Is it the right move . Cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd, whats it about . The first question its about is whether you want to get a pastor whos an american citizen released by the turks. The biggest question is simple this is about trying to treat trying to squeeze a strong man in a world that is the middle east, asia and then you can go into Southeast Asia where strong men cant show vulnerability. Were trying to isolate president erdogan. Hes a strong map. Hes looking at us saying i cant afford to show vulnerability by folding in the face of american pressure. Is it the right move . Worth putting sanctions on and straining the relationship for this man . No. Its worth straining the relationship for this one american citizen but if you want to put pressure on a country whether its the iranians, the turks, the north koreans, you have to ensure they dont have an escape valve. Whats that . Europe, china, russia. Whats the first phone call the turks snake putin and say we want you to help us out. Thats good for us, right . Did you see what happened to turkey and syria . As soon as we move out the butcher of syria turns around and says i want the adversary of america to move in. Thats vladimir putin. What does putin do, he moves in. What happens next . The turks make sure they dont have to respond to american sanctions so in addition to calling people like the russians, theyll call other adversaries like the chinese and say can you give us an opportunity to give us trade deal that we dont have to buckle to ensure donald trump doesnt win . Is this an opportunity for trump to call putin and see if hell help him as promised . Hell no. The first thing that will happen is putin will say i want to restore the russia sort of the russian power base after the embarrassment of russia and the fall of the Russian Empire in in the early 1990s. The way to do that is if the americans leave a vacuum by pulling out, the russians move in. Phil mud, thank you very much and have a good weekend. Thank you for watching. Ill be right back here monday night and we will get after it. Thank you for joining me tonight. Have a great weekend. Utenfree. whistles its a burrito filled with plants pretending to be meat. Here we see the artist making an attempt to bare his soul. Its just a gray dot. There are multiples on the table one is cash, three are fha, one is va. So what can you do . Shes saying a whole lotta people want to buy this house. But you got this Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans makes the complex simple. Understand the details and get approved in as few as 8 minutes by americas largest mortgage lender. 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