President s infamous july fon call. These arent good things for the president. Those major developments as two when we talked about the top of the show an hour ago eight associates of Rudy Giuliani stories that broke since 6 00. Related to find dirt on joe theres a common theme were biden have been indicted on starting to see emerge or common charges off if funnelinger foreign money into u. S. Players and this is where were election. Starting to pull out the threads they were arrested trying to and understand how things are connected. Right. Board with oneway tick tsz. Weebl rr as we start with whats coming weve talked a lot about mayorer giuliani and his involvement. Out tof the state department tonight. We learned two of his clients or and this is a career Career Associates have been indicted for allegedly funneling money man there. It started in 1982. From ukrain or Eastern Europe to when we look at him resign, the campaigns in the United States which would be illegal including Washington Post says part of the reason was pompeii eo os potentially money to a protrump superpack. Failure to appoint state he hasnt been charged. Department personnel. En the he would have potentially i think it probably could be faced legal liability. And suggests theres a schism but to your point its a between the political appointees situation where were being asked to believe right now from the point of view of the white and the ditplomats over at a minimum support by the secretary house that that going on with and perhaps beyond that to the ambassador sondeland, the idea that there is ambassador to the eu, ukrain is dissatisfaction with how not in his purview, not being information is can coming out about the ukrain issue and able to testify with paul whether things have been arope manafort, that none of these retly handled if youre a things are connected and the secretary. White house had no knowledge of what was going on surrounding saying at some point i have to thises phone call with zelensky. Disassociate myself with it or the suggestion is im going along with it. Could he be on thin ice with his and mckinley could now be boss . Called to testify. How do you see that playing out . And we have upcoming testimony from fiona hill whos the Top White House advisor on russia. And this could start a process tmobiles newest signal reaches farther than ever before. Of more and more career officials testifying, with more engineers. Questioning how all this happened unukrain. More towers. More coverage with were the experts sidelined its a network that gives you and igernoed and if theyre freedom from big cities, to small towns, credible, how does that play with the American Public when were with you. Because life can take you almost anywhere, you have Rudy Giuliani with tmobile is with you. No signal goes farther or is more reliable in keeping you connected. People who were if indicted. Going back to the phone call. Asbut when your team is always dealing with device setups, app updates, and support calls. It was can consistent to what President Trump has been trying toing do to take corruption out. You can never seem to get anywhere. 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Free dental care and eye exams, and free designer eyewear. Does he have resignations as you go ahead, take advantage. Have other individuals to say openly to members of the press that they were concerned. The dominos will begin to fall and they start to understand what happened here. I think that red line has already been crossed. And to your point about people raising concerns, this is reporting from the Washington Post that at least four National Security officials did raise concerns and raised concerns before the july 25th [woof] phone call and then afterward withes. The question is what happened with the concerns and in some of the it reporting they raised the question that there is concern that perhaps how it was or was stop dancing around the pain that keeps you up again, and again. Not addressed could have advil pm silences pain, influenced folks to say if this and you sleep the whole night. Isnt working were going to advil pm through other channels. 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The question is whose responsibility was it to bring this to light before the whistleblower came forward and who is responsible for making decisions about whether or not information was kept in classified, whether information was kept from the public and whether or not anyone confronted the president and members of the white house staff about this about what concerns were being raised about what was said on this call. And those are some of of the biggest questions the american two men connected to people deserve answers to. Because if theyre working to President Trumps personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani arrested protect the can country, the security of the United States of and charged with campaign america, the democracy and they are saying we are concerned finance allegations and a former about the way business is being u. S. Ambassador to ukrain and done in this white house. Part of the efforts to dig up and if those concerns are not dirt on joe biden. Addressed, are not followed through on, if nothing is done, reporter tonight two associates with President Trumps personal attorn rudy the question becomes what happens . Whos left and whos actually giuliani indicted while pushing running the show . And that is the concern at least him to get rid of the u. S. Im hearing from people as to ambassador to ukrain on behalf how this is all going to end. Oat least one ukrainian official who wanted her gone. I think its somewhat of a waiting game. Thats the same one he are moved when we look that sequence of events here, you had people this year partially at the express concern over the call behest of of and immediately after the call i would argue that what happened they were arrested around immediately after the call was somewhat of a consciousness of of guilt activity. 6 00 p. M. Last night at dulles when you had the scrambling to airport as they were about to conseal the call, to put it away board an International Flight unother places. With oneway tickets. But for those civil servants, reporter the two men with two others indicted allegedly those people who make that gave hundred oz of thousands to decision as to when and if and a trumpaligned superpack. How they come forward, i think and the contributions were made it appears as if the reporting to advance their personal is correct that some of these financial interests and political interests of at least one Ukrainian Government peopleent with throu people went through the process official with whom they were of of notifying Legal Counsel working. They allegedly made and told them he look under to it. Contributions to state and so i think were at that candidates in nevada to furtherer a marijuana business point where they waited i venturer that never happened. Believe were going to find some and that foreign money from an of these four individuals are probably the same individual whose talked to the unnamed russian citizen whose whistleblower. So i think its a question of involvement they hid because of his current political paranoia waiting to see slowly but surely about it. People saying yes, i put my hand this investigation is about in the air, i raised concerns. Corrupt behavior, deliberate law breaking. I was told those concerns were reporter the men pushed the going to by dealt with but at former u. S. Congressman, pete some point i realized they sessions to help get former werent and so im coming ambassador to ukrain fired. Forward now. The indictment alleged they youll see more and more people at. Ed to gain influence by coming forward and addressing the issue. You brought up fiona hill who committing to raise 20,000 or is supposed to testify on monday. More for aen the sitting u. S. Well see what happens there. As were waiting on that, as the congressman and sought the u. S. Government to remove or recall white house may try to say or the then u. S. Ambassador to the administration you cant do ukrain that request of one or this, is that argument starting more Ukrainian Government officials. To weaken . Think over time yes, he was recalled by President Trump in may, in part because Rudy Giuliani accused her of trying to dig up dirt on joe biden. One key question is how these two men fit into the broader scope of the ukrainian impeachment inquiry. Todays indictment adding intrigue to what is already known. He work woued with joe biden to up dirt and the same phone call where he mentioned the ousted ambassador to ukrain and the indictment aologs they were trying fire because a ukrainian official wanted them to. Be interesting to find out what they shared. So lets tackle all of this from epstein, during a clinton impeachment and a former Deputy Assistant attorney general and a former federal prosecutor. Theres a lot to get through here. As we look through this. How big a deal is it at this point that these two associates of Rudy Giuliani were caught funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to a trump superpack . Its a pretty big deal in and of itself given the conduct in giulianis involvement, but the bigger deal could be because we know both ofthem were working very, very closely with giuliani in the whole project unukrain that was ultimately targeting dirt on biden for President Trump. Of course giuliani and trump are working on that. Froeman is very close to giuliani. Both the men met trump and had dinnerer with him. Both met trump jr. So the possibility of a really intricate spiders web coming into view in the coming weeks is strong. The president says he doesnt can know them. I dont knowthem. I dont know about them. I dont know what they do. But i dont know. Maybe they were clients orudy. I just dont know. Youd have to ask rudy. The picture may be inconvenient. There could be pictures. He takes pictures with a lot of people. How long does that defense last . Not very long because first of all one of these men called trump his friend. He took photos of himself in the white house and maralago. Theres multiple photos of trump with these folks. I wonder how long its going to be before trump saying he doesnt know who giuliani is. He has a habit of of doing that. We saw him do that with Michael Cohen but i think the reality of of the situation i think for trump, what makes this difficult is giuliani is ostensibly representing President Trump but he has his own criminal liability. He is under investigation. So this situation is getting very difficult for the president to distance himself from. And their lawyer, john dow, a name we know well, argued that one of the reasons that some of the information that congress is seeking is protected by attorneyclient privilege is because they assisted giuliani in his representation of President Trump. Well, look, you can have Attorney Client privileges and executive privileges, you can assert them. That may be true in some very limited circumstances. As soon as you are talking about an attorney who is advancing or or protecting a criminal act, that privilege disappears. And i think what the giuliani saga tells us as well is pompeo aid resigning is that this is a house of cards and that is starting to tumble. And this should be a warning shot to everybody inside the administration who is within one mile of it this scandal, that they should get a lawyer and be very careful when they think about participating in this noncoop rau noncooperation effort by the administration. When you convert the office of of the presidency of of the United States for and the National Security of of the United States for personal gain in campaign favors, you are likely in violation of as many as half a dozen criminal statutes. Bribery, on down the line. And if you are participating in an effort to cover that up or not cooperate with congress, everyone inside the administration should know all is a statute off limitations that will out live this administration all likelihood and they should think very carefully as this house ocards starts to look like its beginning to tum itble, they should think very carefully about participating in this noncooperation scheme. I think a good lawyer will tell them theyre criminally exposed. Grrs that is a rather stark assessment and interesting to see how many take that to heart and if theyre listening. As were watching what is happening and flood of subpoenas and people set to testify, we have the president weighing in on former ambassador ivon vich set to testify in a matter of hours saying i dont know howmany people should be talking about things. If for some reason the cubosh is put on his testimony, what do you see democrats doing . They have some options. Its not like with mueller before and especially because Public Opinion is rising in support of removal and the obstruction will be so clear. Theyre not the show stopping witnesses. Although to second what runoto had to say the time may can come when giulianis to the be there and hes looking at criminal liability and thats when the whole thing could break open. You have erica hill. You have potentially wild cards like tillerson or bolton or the National Security counsel. Epstein who said he was really troubled by what giuliani did. Not enough to blow things sky high but enoughf to put together a careful, credible case that essentially duck tales what the original whistleblower complaint and by the way that complaint is to be reinforced any day by a second whistleblower who has more concrete personal information. I do just want to clarify have not been subpoenaed. Fiona hill, no relation, is set to appear. She is the russian expert. We need good lawyer. Glrs you know one . 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So come ask, shop, discover at your xfinity store today. Two men connected to Rudy Giulianis ukrain efforts charged with funneling foreign money into u. S. Elections. As we look at this we talked just before the break about Rudy Giuliani planning to go to vienna. He had been planning to go to vienna tonight. That of course is where we were told that these two men who were picked up were ultimately going to end up on these oneway tick tsz. Not clear that the three ofthem were going to meet up or what they would be doing or why vienna. Im sure its lovely this time oyear. Its certainly an interesting coincidence. As a former federal prosecutor i dont believe in coincidences. I dont think it just happened to be that Rudy Giuliani was meeting with these two men right before they got arrested and planning to go to the same european city as them right a day afterwards. Very suspicious. Its something Law Enforcement would like to know about. I suspect he would exercise his right to remain silent. And something i imagine if he went forward with that testimony he planned, that a lot of senators would ask questions about. And that really underscores the difficult situation hes un. He has financial ties. He was work closely with him. He was holding them out as his associates. People he was directing and working with in his Legal Practice as president. He is very closely tied to them. He just met with them right before they tried to flee. So he is very much in the thick of this. He should be concerned about being indicted himself and mr. Giuliani, hes the president s lawyer and he now needs his own lawyer and get himself out of the thick of this and lay low while under investigation. And one of the things the indictment laze out is theres a Russian National involved behind the money they were funneling into u. S. Politics. You cant help but think back to what the Intelligence Community found with russia and the 2016 election. This is the point i think wee weve all been making and we can know the tip of the iceberg and this seems to be at least by appearances an effort that it was extensive, systematic. Had a bad news bear way and a lack of awareness of potential criminal liability and theres so much more to be learned. And what the white house is doing right now by saying that they dont want to cooperate is they are, i think, probably trying to take the best of bad options. If they cooperate the likelihood is were going to see the rest of the iceberg and its going to get very ugly and nasty and theyre going to lose Public Opinion. E if we cooperate, Public Opinion is going against us and the case for impeachment is going against us. We know that for certain. So what theyre saying is noncooperation is a better percentage game for us right now. Lets just talk our chances, ston stonewall and hope nancy pelosi cant nail down all the democrats and Public Opinion stays at 50 50. Very quick story. During the clinton impeachment i had to negotiate the with the white house. The white house didnt get anyf of the guarantees they were asked for. And the white houses view during the clinton impeachment is lets just get on with this. Why . Because they thought they had the better legal argument and they would win the argument in Public Opinion. Exactly the opposite right there. The white house right now eknos they have a very they have very weak legal ground to stand on and they feel like they are starting to lose the public argument. Thats why theyre not coop rotting. Ive got about 30 seconds left. Do you think ill take to say im so sorry if i say erica when i said fiona. If these two men flip, what does that mean for Rudy Giuliani potentially . They have the whole book on them and listen, they werent insdieted and as soon as they heard they were fleeing, they brought the charges. That means they already had a mature investigation going and must have included Rudy Giuliani. 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Well, as ive said publicly for me we reached the point where if i were a member of the house i would vote to impeach and based on what i know now aif i were a member of thesont i would vote to convict and remove. It letter calls for an expedishes investigation, a vote in the house and if aprpropriat asont trial. So it doesnt want to presume to tell the members what to do and thats wholly appropriate for a letter that 16 of us have signed. But in my personal capacity im comfortable saying im past that point. I do want to read part of it for those not familiar with it. We political candidate open to receivinger foreign assistance to better his chances in winning an election but a current president and privately calling on foreign governments to actively interfere in the most sacred of u. S. Democratic and threaten our democracy. Is this behavior that you believe has grown over time or do you thing this has been there . J. W. . I think its been there since the very beginning. In part because we know that the it i mean donald trump is not a very clever hes not very clever in his corruption. He uses the same playbook over and over. The playbook he used in the events leading up. Not clear he was able to seal it deal. So thats why the messaging was messy. He thought he got away with it so he immediately went back to the same playbook. So its always been there. George connolly who of course hoped to form this group of all of you, the checks and balances. He spoke to former u. S. Attorney earlier and talked about the it letter from the white house. Its just garbage. Its one of the worst letters ive seen from the White House Counsels Office and they make very good arguments. I mean this was trash. Basically the thrust of it is that there is some kind of constitutional obligations the house has failed to meet that therefore render its impeachment inquiry illegitimate and unconstitutional which is complete nonsense because all the kaungsitution says is that the house has the sole power of impeachment. It completely vests the power of impeachment in the house and the house gets to decide how to go about doing that. He calls the letter garbage. Its certainly been called more political than legal but garbage. Would you agree with that . I almost think george is being too kind. It was a purely political document that had virtually no legal grounding. To take one example. They do site a single case with the idea that due process is required during an impeachment. From the district of of columbia involving the impeachment of judge hastings. What they dont tell you is that case was vacated and it was vacated on the precise ground that the courts decided they had no basis of imposing a due process requirement on the house of representatives. So its smoke and mirrors, bad lawyering. Im a defense lawyer and often you do what your client wants, even though you know its a bad idea. You let him testify even though he shouldnt. We call that Client Service because they get to make that decision. This was nothing more than Client Service to the president of of the United States. Sending out an angry tweet in white house letter form. Wow. Eight or ninepage tweet at that. J. W. , we havent heard a lot from republican law mockers. Specifically i look at lindsey graham. He says nothing to see here. Do you sense there is a shift whichi whiching coming . We know clearly how you all feel at this point. I think theres been some movement and some bravery from folks like senator sass who have been willing to point to their discomfort with his actions. Frankly i dont think it its time to hold the senate to account. But its high time for the house to act and frankly nobody is more disappointed in jim jordan than me. I started as a law professor doing oversight of the obama administration. I was the one minority republican witness and he was in the minority and we were doing oversight together and working together. I just dont know what happened to him, frankly. Hes like the character in the emperors new clothes who says yes, your majesty, its a beautiful new ward robe. I would tell him its not too fla late for the judgment of history to treat you well. I have a feeling it will not be the last time we tong about this. Thank you both. At tmobile unlimited talk, text and data is just 30 bucks a line for 4 lines. And now you can get it on our newest, most powerful signal. 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The white house engaged in an unprecedented massive categorical obstruction and defiance of the congressional will. Remember congress is an article one for a reason. We are the law making branch of government. The president s sole job or his primary job is to take care that the laws are faithfully executed. Hes also commanderer and chief with ton its off insurrection in war. But his main job is to implement laws and now hes a imposter defying the orders and its intolerable. As im sure you read from a number of of former federal prosecutors and he doesnt think you need some of the documents and witnesses that you are not getting, that he believes you could simply move forward, continue on with the investigation. Do you agree . I think its an excellent point. Ive been saying since the beginning this is not an Agatha Christy novel. This is not orient express. We know he to extract political dirt from joe biden. Nobodys ever seen anything like it. Its a scandal of constitutional dimension and looks very much like a high crime and misdemeanor. Were conducting a thorough investigation because wed like to give the president and all the president s men the opportunity to offer the evidence theyve got. But of course theyre stonewalling the investigation. Theyre trying to sabotage the inquiry. So at certain point well have to say all of of the whistleblowers material algalg algalga allegations have been ubj objectively kraub rcorroborated Text Messages and by the findings we have about the president with hoildinging the 391 million. Now were finding the bit players, Rudy Giulianis gang that can cant shoot straight, igor and fruman. Todays indictment, two of Rudy Giulianis associates clients, as we know in that indictment what we learn is that according to it that they prszed of course Pete Sessions of texas to help remove ambassador from her post. What do you have about why she was recalld and removed . Well, the evidence seems abundant that President Trump and giuliani were working to and that campaign to get her out of the way so they could purp trait a purp trait all of ther political schemes in ukrain and they were working. Remember too, replace everything that the special counsel mueller found about the sweeping and Systematic Campaign by russia and by Vladimir Putin against our democ ras wiracy about a st how ukrain was interfering. Well learn about this campaign to try to diskrcredit and sabote her. And subpoenaing Energy Secretary rick perry for documents. What do you want to lun from him . Rick perry was, himself, also can deployed to the ukrain campaign in different ways. Hes can disclaimed all knowledge or interest in the specific plan to expract from zelensky political dirt on the bidens. He said he was interested in the energy sector. 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