Realtime, you could see him taking it in. She said how she felt, and you could see all he could do was say, yes, maam, like he couldnt even look at her. And he said she said, you look at me. You look at me. I need you to look at me. And i think that made all the difference. I think there is a power in protesting. We should not forget about that. 100 . I dont believe should be harassed. I dont believe you should touch anybody. I think you should think about it and be strategic about where and how you do it. You should never break the law. But we should never forget thats part of our First Amendment right. We agree. And she gave him a powerful message. She said, look at me and tell me that what happened to me doesnt matter because thats what youre telling me with your vote. And it seems like it sunk in. He did a very brave thing today. His brothers and sisters were not happy with him. Well, if you feel that youre doing the right thing, you have to do whats in your heart. Sure. Whats in your gut. I mean thats how i always operate. I know thats how you always operate. But i have to say, chris i would say what a week, but im going to say what a day. I went through the airport today in d. C. , also here in new york, was out and about a bit. Women approaching me, upset, discouraged. Where are we in this country . What has happened to us . How can this be happening now . Its women are feeling this. I think a lot of feeling people, thinking people are feeling this. But i think for women today, what happened yesterday was really i dont want to say a turning point, but i think it ignited a fire that im not sure is necessarily good at this point for the republican party. Im just being honest. Maybe. But ill tell you what. Whether its hearing your truth, ive realized since the me too movement, i know more women certainly, but also a fair number of men i know more women who have had something terrible happen to them. Yeah. Than those who havent. Yeah. And a lot of them have never talked about it before. Yeah. But, chris, its not about and people always read this. You read into what you want. This is not about guilt or innocence. This is about how you treat people, how you conduct yourself publicly, especially in those hearings yesterday. You know, telling senator klobuchar, are you drinking after she said, my dad is a recovering alcoholic. What do you drink . Do you like beer . Its just inappropriate. Instead of talking about the pain of the woman, making it all about yourself. I mean its just its all in the approach. It has nothing to do with guilt or innocence. Thats not what im talking about. Im talking about whether you have empathy for people, if you can understand them and feel their pain. And i tell you one other thing. People feel that the people who are representing us, if you look at that hearing, you look at the demographics and especially the age, that these people are so out of touch with society and where america is going. Young people cannot relate. Honestly im just going to be honest. Young people are like, who are all these old guys who are like leading our country because they dont Pay Attention to the news unless theres Something Like this. And when they see it, theyre so turned off by it, especially by the behavior. Ill introduce her if you dont want to introduce her. And mansplaining and just the the arcane rules and the archaic behavior. Its i dont know. I dont know what to stay about that. Your big fan bella, my 15yearold. You know the expression i use all the time, what you ignore you empower. When she heard who wasnt being asked to testify, what witnesses werent being asked, she was like dumbstruck. She was like, wait a minute. How are they going to find this out . I said, well, theyre not really looking to figure out whether or not hes guilty or not. Theyre really just going to do the minimum standard, let them talk, and then theyre going to move on with the vote. Yeah. And she was looking at me like i couldnt know what i was saying. Yeah. And i think a lot of people like that shes the next generation. Were hoping everything is better for them. But if they havent done this, what they did today, there would be so many people out there, most of them women, who would think they dont really give a damn about my experience. I dont feel safe in this society. And we cant have that. And young women like bella, thats the future, and we should think about that. Shes going to be your boss someday. Shes your boss now. Thanks, chris. Have a great weekend. You too. This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. Do you feel like your head is spinning after what happened today in washington . Same. President trump, who has been pushing for a quick vote on his Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, who has been insisting theres no need for the fbi to investigate the Sexual Assault allegations against him, completely backed into a corner, forced to do what he really, really did not want to do, and that was order a new weeklong fbi investigation, a complete 180 from everything he has been saying all along. And he was pinned into a corner by his arch enemy, senator jeff flake, the man he delights in calling jeff flaky. You know he has a nickname for everyone that he doesnt like. The president had no choice if he wants to save kavanaughs nomination. And all of that is bombshell news, but lets not lose sight of the woman whose testimony set all this in motion, the woman who had the courage to tell her story in excruciating detail, the story of what she said kavanaugh did to her when they were both teenager. And she told that story with millions of people listening to every word. What is the strongest memory you have, the strongest memory of the incident, something that you cannot forget . Take whatever time you need. Indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter, the uproarious laughter between the two and their having fun at my expense. You never have forgotten that laughter . You never have forgotten them laughing at you . They were laughing with each other. And you were the object of the laughter . I was, you know, underneath one of them while the two laughed. Two friending having a really good time with one another. But then it was as if they disappeared her. After Christine Blasey ford left the room, suddenly it was all about him, about judge Brett Kavanaugh, his anger, his emotion, his fight to get a seat on the Supreme Court. Well, today something happened that brought the focus back to courageous women, women who will not give up, women who are insisting that their voices be heard. Two of those women were moved to confront senator jeff flake this morning. You got to watch this. I told the story of my Sexual Assault. I told it because i recognized in dr. Fords story that shes telling the truth. What you are doing is allowing someone who actually violated a woman to sit in the Supreme Court. This is not tolerable. You have children in your family. Think about them. I have two children. I cannot imagine that for the next 50 years, they will have to have someone in the Supreme Court who has been accused of violating a young girl. What are you doing, sir . I was sulexually assaulted, d nobody believed me. I didnt tell anyone, and youre telling all women that they dont matter, that they should just stay quiet because if they tell you what happened to them, youre going to ignore them. Thats what happened to me, and thats what youre telling all women in america, that they dont matter. They should just keep it to themselves because if they have told the truth, theyre just going to help that man to power anyway. Thats what youre telling all of these women. Thats what youre telling me right now. Look at me when im talking to you. Youre telling me that my assault doesnt matter, that what happened to me doesnt matter and that youre going to let people who do these things into power. Thats what youre telling me when you vote for him. Dont look away from me. Look at me and tell me that it doesnt matter what happened to me, that youll let people like that go into the highest court of the land and tell everyone what they can do to their bodies. Do you have an answer response . Do you have a response, senator . Senator flake, do you think that Brett Kavanaugh is telling the truth . Did you see his face . And you have to listen to what ana maria ar chi la told Anderson Cooper tonight when he asked whether she thinks that protest made a difference. I think if it had been just one story, my story and marias story, it would not have made a difference. It was the fact that it was thousands of people, thousands of stories, and dr. Ford herself. And i felt a sense of relief and a sense of possibility. I was reminded that it is through kind of us standing for ourselves, for our lives, for the lives of others that we make change in this country. Courage. Those women are courageous. Christine blasey ford is courageous. And courage is contagious. Lets hope its contagious. Senator flake telling cnn tonight that that protest played a part in his decision to call for an fbi investigation. His statement saying that he would vote to confirm judge kavanaugh with no conditions was released a little before 9 30 this morning. Then moments later at about 9 31, he was confronted by ana maria ar chi la and Maria Gallagher as he was on his way to the panels scheduled vote. After listening, visibly uncomfortable, as though two women poured their hearts out, senator flake demanded a oneweek fbi investigation of the Sexual Assault allegations against judge kavanaugh. And now President Trump has agreed. But all this is really its far from over. There are real questions still to be addressed here, questions about judge kavanaughs truthfulness, his truthfulness about teenage drinking. The drinking age as i noted was 18, so the seniors were legal. Senior year in high school, people were legal to drink. The legal drinking age in maryland where Brett Kavanaugh went to high school increased to 21 at the end of his junior year while he was still 17. So when he says it was legal for him to drink, its not true. And then there are questions about how much he drank during the summer that Christine Blasey ford says he assaulted her, and i want you to listen to this exchange. Its with senator Sheldon Whitehouse about an entry in kavanaughs 1983 Georgetown Prep yearbook. Lets look at beach week ralph club, biggest contributor. What does the word ralph mean in that . That probably refers to throwing up. Im known to have a weak stomach, and i always have. So the vomiting that you reference in the ralph club reference related to the consumption of alcohol . Senator, i was at the top of my class academically, busted my butt in school, captain of the varsity basketball team, got into yale college. When i got into yale college, i got into yale law school. I worked my tail off. And did the word ralph you used in i already answered the question. Did it relate to alcohol . I like beer. I leike beer. Do you like beer, senator, or not . He never answered the question. And in his testimony, he also insisted that four people who were allegedly at the party would back his version of events. All four people allegedly at the event, including dr. Fords longtime friend ms. Keyser, have said they recall no such event. Her longtime friend, ms. Keyser, said under penalty of felony that she does not know me and does not believe she ever saw me at a party ever. In her letter to senator feinstein, she said that there were four other people at the house, but none of those people nor i live near columbia country club. All four witnesses who were alleged to be at the event said it didnt happen. Those four people didnt say it didnt happen. What they did say is that they have no memory or they have no knowledge or no recollection of it. Thats different than it didnt happen. Her friend, leland keyser, told the Washington Post that while she doesnt remember the party, she believes fords story. Those are just some of the questions about judge kavanaughs truthfulness. My thing is if you dont tell the truth about the small things, then what are you going to do about the big things, especially if youre in a position of power like a Supreme Court justice or the president of the United States. But i want you to listen to what President Trump said today about kavanaughs accuser, Christine Blasey ford. What did you think of dr. Fords testimony when you heard that . I thought her testimony was very compelling, and she looks like a very fine woman to me. A very fine woman. And i thought that bretts testimony likewise was really something that i havent seen before. It was incredible. It was an incredible moment, i think, in the history of our country. But certainly she was a very credible witness. Yeah, that was president donald trump. He called professor ford a very credible witness. Now, you know what i havent hed tated to be critical of the president , right, when its warranted. But i take him at his word there. What he said sounds like he saw what we all saw. He saw a credible woman there, a woman who risked abuse and ridicule, a woman whose own safety and that of her family is at stake all because she had the courage to tell her story, to answer every question put to her, questions about a devastating and intensely personal experience. We heard her voice. We heard the voices of the women who confronted senator flake, and weve heard the voices of women across the country demanding an investigation, demanding the truth, voices of courage. And like i said, courage is contagious. I really want that to be true. Weve got a lot to talk mr. John avalon here is, philip mudd. Theyre all here with me, and well get into all of it when we come right back. Do you offer 4. 95 online equity trades . Great question. For a full Service Brokerage like ours, thats tough to do. Schwab does it. Next question. Do you offer a satisfaction guarantee . A what now . A satisfaction guarantee. Like schwab does. Man scoffing what are you teaching these kids . 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I woke up and getting ready to fly back here to new york, and there it was on television. And then a stunning turnaround. What are the chances . What are his chances . Kavanaughs . Yeah. Look, flakes agreement with murkowski, with collins, with others is that this had to go forward. It was proposed by the American Bar Association late last night as a way to cool the temperature, to try to heal some of the divide, to keep the integrity of the court intact after that incredibly divisive hearing the other day. They backed it, and he backed it belatedly responding to the power of protest, stopping to his own responding i think to his own conscience that was in anguish after the statement was released. Werent you on the air live when this went down . Yeah. We were sitting there and responding to this statement. And then all of a sudden theres the live shot and that incredibly awkward and powerful blocking of the elevator door. And hes not making eye contact. And these two brave women are recounting their stories to him. And i think it just made it viscerally personal, not only their stories and the question of hearing women, but how deeply polarized our country is. And there is an obligation to try to heal it if youre in the United States senate and not simply exacerbate it for partisan gain. We listened, margaret, to fords testimony, gutwrenching. And then, you know, by the evening, after kavanaugh testified, that had sort of evaporated. Do you think that this whole rigamarole that weve been going through do you think now because theres just a pause and theres an investigation, that women will feel better about this . I mean i feel better. I cant speak for all women. Ive been saying all week, you cant conduct i mean many people found both of them many people found one of them credible. Often thats a rorschach test of where you sit politically. Right. But many people felt that both of them were honest and sincere and came by their emotions and their performance honestly. And i dont believe that we can have a republic that is governed by what citizens believe about two peoples individual experiences of an event. This is why we have rule of law. We have to have independent Factfinding Missions to try to discern the best possible version of the truth that is available to all of us. Right. So are you saying that they were going on who do you believe before this pause . I think the commentary and the yes. It has been enormously politicized. There was no independent Factfinding Mission outside of the political process. And the people peoples sides were dug in and getting more dug in. And that does not serve the rule of law or the process or the faith that individuals have in our institutions. I got to get to phil. Hes sitting there going, hey, im here too. But i think folks need to appreciate that when this goes forward, its a oneweek timeout for the fbi to do the investigation. It will not necessarily result in the outcome they wish. No matter who right. So i think people need to realize that this is about doing the Due Diligence that needs to be done. Its not about guaranteeing any outcome. And folks who are hanging on a specific outcome could be very disappointed, and they need to understand thats part of the deal. You know the person who can talk to us about this investigation . If only we had a former philip mudd. So, phil, we learned tonight that senators flake, collins, murkowski, they gave some terms to the leader mcconnell, that the investigation would be limited, right . Current credible allegations. Focus on should focus on mark judge, the friend, but not limit it to him. So considering what john just said, how does all of this play out . Whats going to happen . I wouldnt pay much attention to that term limited. First of all, if youre the director of the fbi, chris wray, your responsibility is to conduct a professional investigation to ensure that you dont get a question in three weeks saying, did you do everything you could during that time period to determine what happened all those years ago . Let me give you one specific example that i think will be hugely significant. Were talking about, for example, yesterday one accuser. So you could read those words, i think, the charge to the fbi, and say, well, theyre just going to determine what happened in that room 35, 36 years ago, whatever it is. That is incorrect. As soon as the investigation starts and somebody says, well, a lot of people arent going to remember what happened because every all the time that summer was dead drunk, all of a sudden you say, well, did that include judge kavanaugh . And you open the door to determining what his lifestyle was. By the way, to close here, i think the most significant story we will see within a week or two has nothing to do with an assault. It has to do with what we called in the business lack of candor. Did judge kavanaugh speak clearly and truthfully about his lifestyle back in that period, or will we find a big air gap between what his college and High School Friends say and what he said . I think thats what were going to see. Thats what my opening was about, about whether he was telling the truth. And i was sitting there, and the one reason i had the conversation with chris about, you know, the folks who are leading our country and, listen, im not an ageist. Trust me. I would love for our leaders to be of all ages. There are not enough young people serving in congress and the senate, or in both houses of congress. And so when he was when they were asking about these terms that were in his yearbook and on and on and he started giving these answers, i sat there, someone who graduated high school two years an kavanaugh, i knew what all of that meant, and no one in that room knew. No one could challenge him on what he was saying about what fffff meant, what the devils triangle meant. And have you ever play quarters . Im like what does quarters have to do with the devils triangle . And there was another thing about what boo fing meafing. Do a google search. It is completely ridiculous. What happens if the fbi uncovers some new women, phil, who allege mistraemtd or assault or something new pops up in. I think what youre going to see is an investigation, people talking about the truthfulness of the judge. Thats not going to be part of the report. What theyll look at in addition to the allegations by various women i mentioned lifestyle questions. For anybody who says thats outside of the investigation, im going to say, how can you understand what happened at a party if you dont understand whether the people there were drunk or not . I dont know how you can answer that question. Theyre going to come back after interviewing dozens of people and say, this is the picture not only of the specific allegations but of the circumstances around the allegations. And nors, i presume, are going to say heres the testimony i heard. Heres what the fbi said. Is there or is there not air gap between them . By the way, i shouldnt say this. Im going to bet a paycheck theres going to be a lot of air between those, and senators are going to say, are we comfortable with that . I think we got to be careful here. You know, frat boy culture is not literally on trial, nor is it illegal. Yes, there may be i disagree. I think frat boy culture is on trial here. Timeout. No, no, no. I mean that in the larger sense, that people are seeing how women are treated and that that sort of behavior has been encouraged. Oh, boys will be boys. Thats just what boys do. Were going to do the thing all those things he talks about in the yearbook. This is a new front on the culture wars. Its in the context of the me too, examining an atmosphere of Party Culture that diminished women too often. That itself, though, coming of age at that time, he referenced animal house, fast times at ridgemont high, whatever. That cultural context that he came out of is not itself disqualifying for being on the Supreme Court. Thats not the story. Thats a different thing. Thats not the story. We saw somebody front. What is incorrect about what i just said . You can disagree, but its not wrong. Yes it is. The investigation the investigators dont care whether he had one beer or 50 beers. Every time a College Student comes up to me and talks about marijuana use, my answer to them is the people who investigate want to determine, as they would have 500 years ago, as they want to to does cultures are different whether you tell the truth or not. Did he tell the truth about who he was back then . He could say, i had 18 beers one night. Im speaking truthfully. 35 years ago. I weigh 150 pounds. That was not a good night. Did i tell the truth to the investigators or not . And theyre going to say if you didnt tell the truth, i dont care whether its about women, marijuana, alcohol. Thats a problem for an investigator. Thats why by the way andy mccabe got fired. Enough mansplaining. Let margaret get in here. Fair. What i could tell was that there was an honest disagreement. You guys were missing each other. Its okay. Women understand whats going on. I could tell he was talking about the truth. You were talking about something else. Look, i im going to Say Something else. This, i think, has the me too movement and this moment actually represent a real cultural shift. Mmhmm. Youre right. There is a cultural past, frat boy culture that is on trial. That is not the question in his Supreme Court hearing, but that is what is at the forefront of all this and the treatment of women over time. And this is not a popular thing to say right now, but this examination, this selfreflecti selfreflection, this airing our dirty laundry in public about how dirty its been in the past and how weve treated women in the past is actually a sign of moving forward. And i hate to be the Glass Half Full and the silver lining, but were getting better. This process is going to make us better. You seem pained by this. Why . Youre like at the verge of tears. Because i care about our country and im sincere about this. And this process, if we move through it sincerely and earnestly and as guilelessly as dr. Ford was, this will make us better. Its a beautiful thing. 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Whatever your drive. Whatever youre chasing. Driver, are we almost there . Were gonna have a baby daddy daddy opportunity is everywhere. All you have to do to find it is get out. Here. Brett kavanaugh, Supreme Court nomination is in doubt. Today the president was forced to order an fbi investigation that will delay a vote by a week. It was a gutwrenching testimony, though, of Christine Blasey ford that led to all of us. Lets bring in a longtime friend of her, samantha gary, who went to high school with her. Good evening, samantha. You were in the room yesterday where it happened for your friend, her heartwrenching and difficult testimony. How did you feel when it was all over . Well, we were incredibly relieved when it was all over. Her testimony was just so heartwrenching. The tension in the room was so intense, and listening to her have to particularly her opening statements, it was just ripping my heart out. So what did she say . Well, when it was all over, she was obviously incredibly relieved. We were all together for a few hours after her testimony. And when she first came in the room, she was still looking a little dazed, but within short order, she started to get back to herself and was laughing and, you know, was grateful to be surrounded by friends. And i felt like shes going to be okay. And now that shes done her part, shes left it in our hands to decide what to do with this information shes brought forward. So lets talk now about what happened today. Does she feel vindicated with the president now ordering an fbi investigation . You know, i havent talked to her today. You know, gratefully shes had a little bit of a break here as she starts to put her life back together again. I can speak for those of us around her. Im not sure i would say we feel vindicated. I think we feel like the process has been really backwards and, you know, yeah, its great that theyre going to do the fbi investigation now. I give i did notice that mr. Flake was did seem moved by her testimony. So i think this is a positive development, but its still been a very broken process. You saw what happened to him on the elevator today, right . I did. What did you think . Mmhmm. Yeah. You know, the pain in that womans voice is is being echoed around the country by a lot of people. During this whole ordeal, i got texts. I talked to people yesterday who were getting texts from people all over the country who were watching her testimony and crying and having to deal with their own experiences of Sexual Violence. It was just horrific. And i think its good that other people are coming forward and really expressing to members of Congress Just how painful this is and just how important it is for their voices to be heard. Yeah. Well, speaking of that, because at the top of the show, i talked about how courage is contagious and how after hearing, you know, your brave friend testify yesterday, so many people are coming forward with their own stories, samantha, and theyre challenging their elected officials to take a stand. How do you feel because i mean its the same as what happened to jeff flake. Do you think more people should challenge their elected officials . Absolutely. I think we dont just challenge our elected officials. We need to challenge all up and down the line. This is happening in secondary schools. Its happening in colleges. Its happening in workplaces. And we have not progressed very far in figuring out a fair and equitable way for survivors of Sexual Violence to come forward and talk about their experience without having to pay just such a tremendous price for doing so. Certainly chrissy is paying a huge price for coming forward in this instance. But im hoping that her courage will give other people courage because theyll see that she that courage of your convictions and doing the right thing, and doing the right thing by your self is really powerful. And its important to know theyre not alone. Youve known her for 40 years and im sure youve heard a lot of people saying this is politically motivated. What do you say to that . Well, i think thats i think theres agendas on both sides. The one person in this that doesnt have an agenda is chrissy, and theres nothing about her or her background to suggest that theres anything here that is in the least bit politically motivated. Do you think that kavanaugh will get confirmed . Well, you know, i think were all going to be on the edge of our seats. Im hoping that members of congress will consider everything thats happened in its totality along with the testimony yesterday and decide if this person is truly possesses the character to sit on the Supreme Court. 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Here to discuss, hilary rosen, tara setmayer, and scott jennings. Dream team. How are you this evening . Happy friday. What a week. Whew. Hillary, we havent seen women this mad since 2016 and the womens march and men are angry too today. This moment really stood out to me. Its senator Lindsey Graham speaking this morning before what was expected to be an afternoon vote. Right. I know im a single white male from south carolina, and im told i should shut up, but i will not shut up if thats okay because i got here the same way everybody else did. Hillary, whats your reaction to that . I i think that, you know, Lindsey Grahams performance yesterday and thats clearly what it was was, you know, beyond the pale. But what he did, and people are forgetting about this, the reason he had an outburst was because the socalled prosecutor was just starting to get at some details that were unexplained in Brett Kavanaughs calendar. And Lindsey Graham and his colleagues decided that they really didnt want a Factfinding Mission. What they wanted to do was start attacking democrats by way of attacking the credibility of dr. Ford. And so i think this sort of bluster and bullying and changing the subject has been actually a pattern for men over the last, you know, years ive been involved in the antisexual harassment movement. This is the pattern. You dont answer the question. You dont let the facts go where they need to go. You get outraged. You get insulted. You get blustery. You get angry, and you get bullying back. Thats what happened yesterday. Thats what Lindsey Graham did on behalf of Brett Kavanaugh. We saw Brett Kavanaugh do that all afternoon. Thats why women were so upset. Im talking about today, tara. I want you to get in because we have short time here. You said that today what senator Lindsey Graham said there, you said it was a nice way to stoke more racism and sexism. Sure. Hes gone full trump. You talked about this earlier tonight, don, and we talked about this yesterday. Hes auditioning to be trumps attorney general, and i think that its despicable. What is he doing . Why did he have to bring up that, oh, im an old white guy. I should shut up. Thats exactly along the lines of what donald trump has done to divide this country. Hes used class. Hes used sex. Hes used race. All of the people who are outraged about things changing in this country, or our times are not like they used to be, that is exactly what trump has done. Hes taken that from the trump playbook, and i think it was despicable and unnecessary in this debate. Scott, what do you think . Well, open your twitter feed and youll see people are attacking senators for being old, and being white, and being male. I think Lindsey Graham was reacting to that. I think what we should talk about tonight is not this one specific moment, but i think you raised a good question in the intro to this segment, which is what is causing this anger in america. I think its much deeper and larger and has to do with the crisis we have in trusting our institutions. I think people get angry when they dont believe they can trust their institutions. There is a tyranny and a crisis of mistrust in this country. People dont trust the process in the senate. They dont trust their congress in general. They dont trust the executive branch. They dont trust a lot of the major strugss that provide the guardrail of american democracy. I think thats whats driving the anger, and i think it explains a lot of how people feel on both sides the aisle. And trump knows it needs the ceo of forcing that on to people. Well ton to talk after this break. 1 out of 2 kids dont get enough calcium, vitamin d, and potassium. Make sure your kid isnt one of them. 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What took place today with those two women confronting jeff flake in the will be was one of the most powerful acs of democratic freedom ive witnessed in my entire life. I cried tears over that. My mother is a survivor of Sexual Assault. She actually told me for the first time she had a gun put to her head when she was in her 20s and pregnant with me. And asked to perform a sex act. She told that person you have to kill me before that happens. She was able to escape. She never told me that. Im 43. My mom and i are thick as thieves. This environment empowered her to tell her story. And those women i related to them. I just want women in this country to know their voice does matter. Thats democracy im glad flake did what he did. Ive got to get back to this. Thats i think that was important. About the politics though. Whats happened is women are not politicizing this. Women are not talking about the election. Women are talking about their stories. So matt schlep. Political operatives like matt are talking about politics. Give me a chance. Well run out of time matt tried to explain and said i retweeted a photo of senators who are tried to harm my friend. My question is, why even do this and shouldnt you have the state of mind if you see that photo and matt is not a dumb man. I know him. Why even do that . Scott, go ahead. I know him, too. And i know him quite well. I know his wife and his family. And we Work Together through the bushcheney years. Matt schlep is not a racist. He doesnt have a racist bone in his body. I believe he and brett are very close friends. I believe him when he said he was defending his friend Brett Kavanaugh. I think people have been trying to impart evil intention on matt tonight. I dont think its true. Hes defending his friend. How is he defending a friend by putting up states and saying Pay Attention to this. How is that a defense. Invited Milo Yiannopoulos to cpac and had to walk that back. These three senators have taken it upon themselves to become the spokesman of the anti kavanaugh dras on the Senate Judiciary committee. Thats their right. They have become the face of the antikavanaugh opposition. And, of course, mat schlep is one of the biggest prokavanaugh spokespeople. Theyre having a big public debate over this. I dont think its fair to attack the character of matt schlep over this. Why didnt he take a wide shot of the entire democratic side of the dais . I dont think he took the photo. Thats my whole point then. Why use it. If youre not aware enough. Right. No selfawareness. If youre not selfaware, that is a problem, as well. I get so sick of people saying im not a bigot. They will do things that are even if youre not aware of it. Its still the behavior. Be aware. Know what youre doing. We all make mistakes. When you keep doing it over and over, thats a problem. Well be back. Thank you. Not long ago, ronda started here. And then, more jobs began to appear. 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