Fruition and see stories of kids thats going through the same thing i went through, it makes it even more like yes, we did this. This is why we should have did it. But there is a lot that has got lebron james fired up off the court. Listen to what he says about living while black in america. No matter how big you can become or no matter what you do in the community. No matter what you do in your profession, being African American in america is always tough, and they always going to let you know that you are the nword no matter who you are. Is there a run for office in his future . Someone tried to recruit a lebron to run for president , they said listen, they got no one. If you dont run, trump is going to win. Would you run . Well, in that case i may. This is the interview that you dont want to miss. Lebron james, one on one. Thank you. A recap of the days news. They brought this together and brought it to me. I was like absolutely. You cant get nowhere in life without help. You were i think a third grader who interviewed you for teen vogue, right . And asked you about all the challenges and about the single mom. Right . I relate to that. I grew up a single mom who is my hero. Is that one of the reasons this is important to you . Absolutely. Its one of the huge reasons that its important. Because everyday struggle me and my mom had to go through at that age. Being in the third or fourth grade. For us to be in a position where we can see stories of kids thats going through the same thing that i went through, it makes it even more like yes, we did this. This is why we should have did it. How do you conquer those fears . Jaden was his name, talked about Hearing Gunshots and that sort of things, being tempted by drugs and all those things. How do you think how do you get them to understand thats not the path they have to take . I think being in a support
system and thats what this is all about. I think for me, when i did go to school, or when i was playing Little League sports, you know, being around kids and being around people that have fun and kind of speak the same language as you, it allows you to kind of escape away from the drugs and the violence and the gunshots and things that go on on an everyday basis, and thats what were here for. Im opening the schools to be able to get these kids minds and bodies away from we made the hours of being in School Longer until five. Thats a long time. We want them here so we can let them know not only do we want you here, but we really do care about what happens with you. People say hes an athlete. Athletics are big, but this is a stem school. Its science, mathematics and reading. All that. Math, reading, social studies, all the way down to gym class,
friends flow growing up. It was pretty cool. And even bedtime. 7 30, 8 00. Yeah. None of that for me. Im glad you mentioned that. Ive been watching you, especially for a long time. This is not the first time ive interviewed you. I interviewed for your website and other things you did. But theres been something has changed in you over the last year or two. Is it whats going on in the country racially . Is it politically political . I think its a little bit of everything. I think it starts with the Trayvon Martin situation, and the reason it starts with that, i believe, is because having kids of my own, having boys of my own, it hit home for me to see and learn the story and to think if my boy left home and he never returned. You know . That kind of that kind of hit a switch. That kind of hit a switch for me. And from that point on, i knew
that my voice and my platform had to be used for more than just sports. Right. Good for you. Good for you, man. You said that your boy, your boy never returned home, but then there are people, kids are returning home. You think about the kids being taken away. The same thing that, your heart breaks when you think someone comes over, they want a better life and their kids are being taken away from them. I cant imagine that. And weve always grown up saying this is the land of the free and opportunity here in america, and to be a parent, to be a father, to be a husband and to think that you can have a beautiful family one day and the next day they can be taken away, its something that you never ever could imagine. You were talking about athletics. Right . How you think this president is dividing. I think about the kids now. There are kids who are selling water. I interviewed a little kid who wanted some action figures, and he was out doing stuff with his mom and he got the cops called
on him. How do you tell these kids eve within that when youre just living while black, how do you get them to keep going . I think you know what im talking about, right . I think the best way to tell them to keep going is no matter how successful you could become, no matter dwwho you are when youre an American Kid Male or female, youre always going against obstacleobstacles. You can allow it to effect you and for you to degrade, or you can allow it to empower you even more, and to rise above it. I think if we look at some of the greatest leaders of our time, you look at muhammad ali and Martin Luther king, they never let the diversity down them. They always used it to say okay, this is even more motivation. This is even more a way for me to even be more powerful, and
theyre the reason were here today. Your challenges become goals, and your haters become your motivators. Absolutely. So you were talking about the using athletics to divide people. Yeah. You heard what the Man In Charge what the president said about marshawn, about steph, about, you know, it seems like its kaepernick. Yeah. Men of colors who have means and a platform. Whats up with that . Well, its wrong. Its not up. Its down. For him to like i say, use sports to kind of divide us is something i cant sit back and not say nothing. You tweeted about a couple of these. Yeah. You tweeted about when steph curry, you called him a bum because he but steph had already said im not going to the white house. He already said he wasnt going. He tried to use it after that to
say youre not invited. You cant uninvite me to something i said i wasnt going to go to. Steph curry, great kid, great family, great father, and so many different kids so many kids white, black, hispanic, all different races love what hes doing and rightfully so. Theres no reason for anyone to ever attack him. And thats i felt that. Whenever theres Something Like hes in trouble, he cant wiggle his way out of something, hell bring up the National Anthem and kneeling or standing. Do you think he uses black athletes as a scapegoat . At times and more often than not, i believe he uses anything thats popular to try to negate people from thinking act the positive things they can be doing and try to get our minds to not be as sharp as possible right then. Either from Football Players kneeling. Look at kaepernick who was
protesting something he believed in and he did in the most calm way possible. Very respectful. He did his due diligence. Everyone knew why he did it. Look at the nfl players still kneeling. You look at steph and Marshawn Lynch and all these instances why hes trying to divide our sport, but at the end of the day sport is the reason why we all come together. Yeah. What do you i just wonder where we go from here, because to a lot of People Charlottesville was it. I mean, you tweeted, i think you said is this what our country is, make America Great again . I think that was for everybody like all right, thats enough. I cant believe this. Absolutely. I mean, we all felt that. It didnt matter what color you are to feel that tension, to feel like our great country, you know, that we all wake up every day in the land of the free as we believe with great
opportunity to be even more than what people even expect you to become for that to happen, you just felt like that was that was kind of the tipping point. Will you i guess maybe you were surprised. Maybe you werent. The whole nword incident at your house when it was painted . I dont know if i was surprised. I dont know if i was hurt. I dont know if i was disappointed. It was so many different emotions. More importantly, it was the conversation that i had to have with my boys that it was that hurt me. But at the same time it also enlightened me and also knew that no matter as i stated, you know, when i did an interview after that, that no matter how big you can become, no how successful you are, no matter what you do in your community or profession, being African American in america is always tough, and they always going to let you know that you are the nword no matter who you are, and that was just a reset. Even when you have lebron status, lebron money. It doesnt you think its harder when you see the incidents about being black, just living, do you think its harder now or were just seeing it because of cell phones . I think its always been there. But i think the president in charge now has given people they dont care now. They throw it in your face now. Would you ever run for office . Run for office . Would you ever be a politician and run for office . I dont think so. I dont think so. I dont know. Im being serious. If someone tried to recruit a lebron to run for president , they said will listen, theyve o one. If you dont run, trumps going to win. Would you run . Well, in that case i may. If they had no one, i mean, i believe theres some people out there, i hope. Lets see first. Lets see first. You would run . Right here . I would never sit across from him. You dont want to talk to him . No. Id sit across from barack, though. I loved sitting down with lebron today. What i loved is that he is his his authenticity. I was sitting down with a celebrity who didnt care about oh, were going to offend this demographic or somebody might not buy my record because of this or may not come to a game because of this. Lebron is who he is. He says it like he means. Im so glad hes around to do that and more people should continue to do that in this environment. Thank you, lebron james. Mr. President , think about that. Professional athlete doing a good thing for his community. That would be nice to talk about. We have more to come in the next hour when he gives me an exclusive tour of his school. Plus youll find out why hes giving every one of his students a new bike. When we come back, youll hear
lebron say pretty blunt things about President Trump, but will he keep taking aim at the white house . My Digestive System used to make me feel sluggish but now, i take metamucil every day. It traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter. Try metamucil, and begin to feel what lighter feels like. New laptop with 24 7 tech support. Yep, thanks guys. I think he might need some support. Yes start them off right. With the School Supplies they need at low prices all summer long. Save 200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. Is more than just a day at the ballpark. Stadium pa all Military Members Stand and be recognized. Sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. No matter where or when you served, tmobile stands ready to serve you. Thats why were providing half off family lines to all military. Its a peaprotein, glutenfree pate. Gman . whistles its a burrito filled with plants pretending to be meat. Here we see the artist making an attempt to bare his soul. Its just a gray dot. There are multiples on the table one is cash, three are fha, one is va. So what can you do . Shes saying a whole lotta people want to buy this house. But you got this Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans makes the complex simple. Understand the details and get approved in as few as 8 minutes by americas largest mortgage lender. Welcome back. You heard my exclusive interview with superstar lebron james. We talked about the new school he opened in akron, ohio. We talked about racism in the country and lebron wasnt afraid
to speak his mind about President Trump. Lets does now. A former ohio senator and former assistant to president bush. Both nina and scott are political cnn commentators. Chris, ill start with you. Let me remind everyone of what laura ingram said in february. Must they run their mouth like that . Unfortunately a lot of kids and some adults take these ignorant comments seriously. Look, there might be a cautionary lesson in lebron for kids. This is what happens when you attempt to leave high school a year early to join the nba. And its always unwise to seek political advice from one who gets paid 100 million a year to bounce a ball. Oh, and lebron and kevin, youre great players but no one voted for you. Millions elected trump to be
their coach. So keep the political commentary to yourself, or as someone said, shut up and dribble. I mean i mean, its just. Let me start from the beginning. Must they run their mouths like that . Like, really . I almost said a bad word. Who does she think she is to talk to someone about that . 100 million to dribble a basketball . Thats not what it is, and look at what hes doing now. Im sorry. Go on. I just. You know this one dimensional view of anyone is a problem. Right . I want to be able to talk about sports, so im not going to be a guy who says that athletes cant talk about politics. I would also say that theres a lesson in trumps victory that Laura Ingram Doesnt Touch Which is that im not sure that the average person is looking for a political pundits view on
things as much as theyre looking for views of other people in the culture they respect. Again, just because theyre good at a sport doesnt mean you cant have opinions about other things. Lebron james, kevin durant, stuff curry, draymond green, whoever you want to name im not a politician. I do real estate. But youre the president so the president of the United States should never talk politics . Thats my point. Donald trump should never talk politics . Right. Theres nothing i hate more in my own life on twitter than if i tweet something about sports or music and people say stay in your lane. Talk about politics. No one is one dimensional. That goes beyond that. Her tone, the language she used. Theres no question when you say things like shut up and dribble, and when youre dealing with a league, particularly the nba thats overwhelmingly African American, race goes with it and donald trump and the way in which he treats athletes and
the way in which hes reacted to athletes, theres no question that who is the country rocker . Whats his name thats always saying the nasty things thats always invited whats his name . Ted nugent . Its how he feeling at the time. I think he should sit across from President Trump and school him a little bit. Let me in on laura ingram. Go on. Just an insult. I just remind me of how African Americans were treated in the 20 th century, 19th century, 18th century. Just shut up and do what we tell you to do. She really showed her bigot ri and her racism to think that the only thing that lebron james or any other athlete can do is to shut up and dribble a ball. Just absolutely insulting. Call it what it is. Flat out. So, scott, you heard what
nina said. She said maybe he should sit across from him and try to school him a little bit. Speaking of schools, i promise is a school. You say lebron should work with President Trump. Why is that . Well, i think this president has shown that when celebrities of his status speak to him, he listens. Even on the issue of using president ial pardons hes taken the advice of celebrities. If i were lebron james who i have a lot of respect for, i would take a step back and say if i ever got the chance to meet the president , i would see how other people of similar Celebrity Status have used that opportunity to effect positive change. The president used pardon power to right old wrongs on alice and jack johnson. I think if lebron james talked to trump about the great story hes promoting at this school which is a wonderful story, and im glad youre doing the story tonight, i think the president would listen to that. I think theres something going on in our world. We want to hear from
nontraditional people about whats happening in our world and the public affairs. A voice lebrons could be more valuable than he knows. I think lebron knows that the president would be using him as a prop and he doesnt listen when it comes to race. He doesnt speak, by the way, theres a caveat i didnt say. He doesnt speak about Kim Kardashian or people who look like her the way he speaks about people who look lebron james. Thats right, or me. But don, this is the thing. The president may take that advice on that. He has an Attorney General that has increased the war on drugs, that has increased talking about penalizing people with the mandatory minimums. He has a division in sync with the purges going on from the voter rolls. He says one thing when it benefits him, but talking about doing Global Change and dealing with systemic racism and
discrimination, he has no parts of really trying to correct that. When we come back, well talk more. I was talking to lebron about the school but clearly he wanted to discuss these issues. These are issues that are really important to him, and hes not exempt from racism because hes lebron james and a multimillionaire. The nword was spray painted across his house not long ago. Well talk about that. Now, naturally defined brows that last. New Tattoo Brow Tint Pen from maybelline new york. Multiprong tip draws hair like strokes,
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interview, that and when he was talking about when he decided to start to say more. Even being lebron james, and his kids, he was worried about them going out and maybe never coming home. To your point, i think its really important, and we get away from this in politics all the time. I think its really important to remember the things that unite us sometimes as opposed to the things that divide us. A father worried about his son encourages him to speak out more than he had previously. A president who whatever you think of him, uses weaponizes race to score political points and has since prior to being a political candidate brings out a Basketball Superstar to talk more openly about sort of being a citizen of the world. Those are, i think, good things in that we need more people to hear lebron james speak and not
be able to just stereo type well, hes good at basketball, but im not interested in his views. He is a citizen. You do not sacrifice being a citizen because youre excellent at something. He has a huge profile. People, i think, will at least hear him. I dont know if theyll listen and change, but theyll at least hear him. But hes at least able to articulate a message, answer my questions, follow a train of thought much better than someone who shall remain nameless a number of types i interviewed him. For people saying well, why do we care about lebron james and what he has to say . Hes articulate and intelligence and knew his Subject Matter in that interview. I cant say that about a lot of people i interviewed lately in that day and age. Scott, listen, racism was a president in the u. S. Long before donald trump ran for president. I wonder if hes making it
worse. I think thats the sentiment from lebron. By not calling out White Supremacists like In Charlottesville is the President Emboldening Racists . I think hes allowing some of the racists to try to appropriate his presidency when i dont believe the president intends for them to do that but by not speaking out more forcefully, they try to campaign on his name, and thats a bad thing. Any way you cut it, thats a bad thing. Some things are going right for the minority country under President Trump. Unemployment rate for African Americans hit an all time low. Theres Criminal Justice reforms the white house is pushing thats bringing people from both parties together. The attempt to appropriate it breaks my heart as someone who considers himself to be in the party of lincoln. I would also say the president leads us all, and has a story to tell here that when you let these people like we saw in
charlottesville dominate the headlines, it makes it virtually impossible for the good stories that i just mentioned to come out. So i want the president to speak out against these racists, because they do exist. And they will try to use his name and campaign on his name. Its wrong. Nina, ill give you the last word. I hate to break it to my brother, but todays gop is nothing like the radical republicans of the party of lincoln. What lebron james is doing, don, is nothing short of spectacular. Im from ohio. His heart as he said is with akron, ohio. I promise what he is doing is rem necessary end about 43 years ago a chicago schoolteacher saw black kids were not being treated properly and knew they had more goals and aspirations and gifts that were not being recognized and she said that she opened up that school with her own money and she said i am touching the future. That is exactly what lebron
james, king james for our way is doing by opening up that school and using his power and his presence to touch the future generations and pour into them life and hope. He said i am one of them. So as a black man in america he made it clear that it doesnt matter how much money that he has, that in the words of ice cube, his skin is still his sin. He is letting us know he can relate to every day African Americans in this country about how race is still prelom nates. Unless we have some real truth and reconciliation and stop covering it up and have deeprooted conversations and Push Policies that actually change the needle, you know, 228 years one study showed that it would take an African American to catch up with the average wealth of White Americans in this country. Were talking about systems, not just individuals. So i salute king james for the work that he is doing to change the lives and the dynamics of
young people in this country. Go akron, go northeast ohio. And go lebron. Thank you. I appreciate your words. Im glad you mentioned when you talked about the wealth gap. Generational wealth is something that people of color dont have the luxury of. I think thats a huge, huge gap in this country that keeps us divided. Thank you, scott, and thank you, chris as well. I appreciate all of you. Well have much more on the next hour and much more of this program right after this. U likes its so hard to believe but its all coming back me. Baby, baby, baby. All you can eat is back, baby. Applebees. Woman it felt great not having hepatitis c. Its like a load off my shoulders. I was just excited for it to be over. Harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of Chronic Hepatitis c. Its been prescribed to more than a quarter Million People and is proven to cure up to 99 of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. Certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. Before starting harvoni your doctor will test to see if youve ever had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious Liver Problems during and after harvoni treatment. Tell your doctor if youve ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. Taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. Common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. Ready to let go of hep c . Ask your hep c specialist about harvoni. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis,
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the Special Counsel, trying to get his attention. Really, mueller has no interest in cohen. Pitched him up to the Southern District of new york because that case hes involved in or cases were not within his mandate. Get his attention for what, chris . He wants a deal. Thats his only card he has to play. He wants a get out of jail free card. Is this why cohgoing goes af cohen so hard . Heres what got me. He called cohen a liar. But hes been lying for who if hes lying . Hed be lying for donald trump, wouldnt he . Hes back and forth on it as weve seen. But i think they have some fear with the manafort trial coming up, its there are going to be some revelations that relate to the main investigation of the Special Counsel, and cohen is trying to get insert himself into that and create some
relevance so he can get a deal. He has no card to play up there in the Southern District of new york. So Rudy Giuliani on behalf of the president is trying to discredit him as best they can right now. What they dont know is i dont think the Special Counsel has a lot of interest in him yet. Why not . Its a bank fraud case. Its a tax medallion corruption case. It may be related to Election Campaign corruption. I dont Think Mueller feels like thats part of his case in chief unless he has something very relevant. And that trump tower meeting is an important meeting . Especially if he has more evidence on it. Ive got a move on and ask you about this. President trump is alleging a vague Conflict Of Interest. He says mueller has hes tweeting this. Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of
interest with respect to President Trump including the fact that we had a very nasty and contentious Business Relationship . I turned him down to head the fbi one day before appointment as sc and comey is his close friend. In an interview on cnn Rudy Giuliani refused to specify what that alleged conflict is. Is there any legal basis for this claim or is it is it just like president obama was wiretapping trump tower . Its in that lane. Whats going on here is this is rudy throwing up some smoke or excuse me, the president also. It started with the president. And this is an old claim hes made. He made he said that mueller had a Conflict Of Interest when because of his relationship to one of his Virginia Golf Course and Country Clubs where mueller once was a member, and they had some dispute that got sorted out, minor incident. But he thought this was
justification alone to have a Conflict Of Interest to pursue a prosecution as a Special Counsel. Well, thats silliness. And all this was disclosed to the Department Of Justice and mueller has no obligation to turn this information over to anybody other than the Department Of Justice. Its sad a lot of people are buying this stuff that theyre putting out there. Thats all ill say. Ill end it there. Thank you, gentleman. I appreciate it. When we come back, ill ask a former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee what he thinks about Rudy Giulianis def defense of the president. Plus there are signs that say north korea is working on new missiles. Mike rogers weighed in on all that next. Sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. Stadium announcer all Military Members Stand and be recognized. No matter where or when you served, tmobile stands ready to serve you. Thats why were providing half off family lines to all military. Capital one and hotels. Com are giving Venture Cardholders 10 miles on every dollar they spend at thousands of hotels. Brrrr i have the chills. Because of all those miles . And because ice. Is cold. Whats in your wallet . And because ice. Is cold. When you bundle your auto and hwith esurance, you could save with their single deductible. So if you confused the brake with the gas, or if your lamp post jumped out of nowhere, or if you forgot your bike was on the roof rack, you only pay one deductible instead of two for a claim involving both your auto and home. And when you save that much, its almost like it. Never even happened. Thats auto and Home Insurance for the modern world. Esurance. An allstate company. Click or call. You on. I hear youre like the energizer bunny today, up since 3 00 this morning. I flew out, did an interview and no woe is me, im fine. Now, i was going to give it to wolf and now all you. I have been having trouble saying words, i havent been drinking but with words coming slowly. We have been talking about Rudy Guiliani moving the goalpost in this investigation and went from there wasnt a meeting to collusion i know Rudy Guiliani and hes a fine man. A good lawyer. I knew him when he was Doing Mob Cases in new york when i was an fbi agent in chicago. I think hes having a bad week here. It appears to me there is no coordination between what the
white house communication shop is doing or at least his lawyer shop is doing, i should say, the president and what this guiliani shop is doing, they have this go out and fix this thing. Guiliani isnt really doing the legal work it appears to me, doing the pr work. I thought in the last couple of days he wasnt at his best. He said, just since hes been representing the president , he said some things not necessarily consistent as well. The last couple of days, youre right, not at his best. Theres a japanese proverb that says only lawyers and painters can make white into black. Think about it. History hes been on both sides of this issue. Michael cohen a terrible great guy, and now an awful and terrible guy. I think you will see more of that as the pressure of this case mounts. The one that got me, i will say this, don, if col collusion isnt a crime even if were a
crime, my client didnt have anything to do with it or wouldnt have done it. Boy, thats just close to being irresponsible with your language when this matter is that serious. I hope they go back and rehuddle up and come out of the gate a little stronger for his client. Can you put the genie back in the bottle. I have to ask you about some news here, a new report in the washington post. U. S. Spy agencies are seeing signs north korea is constructing new missiles at a factory that produced the countryses First International missiles capable of reaching the United States. Does this fly in the face of north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. This thing hasnt worked out well at all. Just by having the meeting, they agreed to denuclearize, right away, the north korean government was saying, we didnt
say that. I hate to say, this is the pattern weve seen over and over again, which is why other president s have run into this same problem. Theyre very good about giving concessions, north korea wants concessions, pressure, act badly, misbehave, the world comes around, says, maybe this is the time and maybe this is the time. We see exactly the same behavior were watching unfold now. I have no doubt theyre actively engaged trying to secure their nuclear program. Ren, kim jongun believes this is what will allow him to stay in power forever. He also believes its what will allow him to negotiate u. S. Forces off the peninsula. I hate to interrupt you but i have to get it in before i go to the top of the hour. The president dropped a stunner saying he is willing to meet with iranian president rouhani with no reservations. What do you think of it . Former president obama said he would meet with people, my gosh, heads were popping off all over the country including conservatives including this president who said something about it. Including me. I was pretty upset when president obama came out and said no conditions, im going to meet with the iranians, there were the secret meetings and i was intel chairman then and i was not happy about that. Im not happy about this either. Any time you cede it as president of the United States youre making a mistake. Why is it okay now for north korea . Why is it okay now for lots of folks . They shouldnt. If youre consistent with your National Security views. I was upset with president obama for reaching out with no concessions. Actually, president obama gave them cash to come to the table. I was apoplectic back then, even on cnn, i think President Trump is doing exactly what i and many people were frustrated about president obama doing because you end up not getting anything for it, what you end up doing is giving away pieces of leverage at a really bad time. Im not sure the president understands that. He had a meeting with kim jongun, thought it was great, guess what, a report comes out theyre building missiles. You have a meeting with no consequences with rouhani, you will end up on the short end of that stick. Thank you. More coming up. Dont. Stop. Me. Now. because im having a good time. dont. Stop. Me. Now. yes im having a good time. i dont want to stop at all. And its also a Story Mail Aabout People yes im having a good time. and while we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. That your business is our business the United States postal service. Priority you when did you see the sign . When i needed to jumpstart sales. Build attendance for an event. Help people find their way. Fastsigns designed new directional signage. And got them back on track. Get started at fastsigns. Com. Now im gonna tell my momma that im a traveller im Gonna Follow The Sun
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