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He may be someone who in many respects is irrational, but he is not insane. Also in the president s interview with routers you saw there, he weighed in the demands of the oval office and the take away and mr. Trump saying being president isnt easy. I loved my previous life. I loved my previous life. I had so many things. I actually this is more work than in my previous life. I thought it would be easier. Not exactly a new idea that being president is tough. President obama suggested that he had more problems than many other president s first coming into office after the first 100 days. At any rate, the thing were looking ahead to right now is the appearance of Rex Tillerson, the Secretary Of State at the United Nations chairing a highlevel meeting to talk about north korea. Buckling to international pressure. They say this will only encourage their country to grow its arsenal more quickly. Its been a busy week on the ground here. You saw that exercise with hundreds of artillery fired simultaneously. Kim jongun overseeing that event and then this chilling new prop began ta video showing a simulated missile attack on washington, the capital and what appeared to be the Uss Carl Vinson aircraft carrier. We dont know how the dynamics are going to work between kim jongun and President Trump. And you add into the mix china now saying they are willing to work with the United States to try to find a solution on the korean peninsula. It appears the u. S. Is trying to find a diplomatic or economic solution here before moving to the next phase of Military Confrontation and added it to the sense of ser againsy to. Job hes doing and what seems like an outright policy shift to the Secretary Of State being open to a possibility of direct negotiations with north korea. I think all of this is very carefully calculated. I heard from an Administration Official that all of these public messages from president Donald Trumps specific input. They want to leave a very narrow path for him to denuclearizing via talks and to signal to china that this time we are serious. We might take military action. So we know you promised the Obama Administration several times in the past that you would shut down banks or shut down north koreas access to business to put pressure on them, but you havent. This time were serious, so youve got to get serious about this. Its interesting. You know, kimberly says this is a strategy and it may very well be. We could learn from Rex Tillerson exactly where the United States is this morning on north korea. But one thing that has happened with this white house is you hear two Different Things from two different parts of the administration at the same time. Mike pence says no direct negotiations with north korea unless they denuclearize right now. But you hear other things as well. Is there a Messaging Problem inside this white house . Youre right. I think very often these senior Administration Officials and even the president are not using the same language to talk about situations that they are faces and oftentimes it is because the president is responding, especially in interviews, he is responding to his instinct, his assessment of the situation, which may or may not line up with the administrations policy or strategy in a particular case. So i think we always have to kind of hold out the possibility that, you know, particularly his talk about kim jongun being sort of a little bit of a sympathetic figure. Its not easy to run a regime like this. Thats something that seems a little bit more like the president is just giving his sort of gut take on the situation. I mean, only time will tell where this eventually goes. There are real experts within this Administration Working on this issue. So, you know, i think as kim is saying, theyre working diligently toward a strategy. It just may not always be reflected from the words coming out of the president s mouth. Thats an interesting observation right there. Ill let that sink in for a moment. Douglas, this just in, being president is hard. Donald trump did an interview overnight with ruthers. Every president is daunted by the e norty of the task. But what is different for me at least is the notion that he thought somehow running a Real Estate Business and being on the apprentice would have been harder than being president. Yeah. I was surprised that he made this comment about being surprised how hard the work is. After the 100th day of the Trump Presidency marker right now doesnt reassure people to know the guy is sluggi inshrugging a, wow, this is rough. They said this about the health care fight. Trump shrugged and said he didnt know health care was so difficult. The concern is when hes saying things like major, major conflict, it is something absurd about it. There used to be a govl catch 22 that showed an absurdy going on in the Military Back in the 1960s and 70s. The statement by donald trump leaves everybody kind of perplexed. He said this threatens about korea. At the same time hes saying, wow im really exhausted. Kind of talking about rough he has it now. It was an unusual experience of talking to these reporters. I dont know why he decided to mor ph those together like that he brought up health care and another Major Development overnight. House Republican Leadership delayed or pulled back the notion they would get a vote on this effort to repeal and replace obamacare. I was looking at the hill. Youve got a pretty high count for people against it or leaning against it. The votes arent there now. Will they ever be . Thats a great question. Weve got 21 no or leaning no. There are cousins of other republicans who have not said where they stand. So if they pass this through the house, it is going to be by the thinnest of margins. Also, remember, democrats have some leverage even though they dont control congress or the white house. They need democrats to keep the government open. So i think that what speaker ryan is doing is saying lets deal with this first. Lets not have a Government Shutdown and then well get to health care. So i think that health care could drag on for a while. But the Republican Party cannot put its hands up and say were done. They have to keep trying to really do what they said on the Campaign Trail is repeal obamacare. Who is this on . Reince priebus for continuing to push something thats not pushable. Paul ryan for not delivering. Is it on the Freedom Caucus for pushing the moderates away and offering something that most of them cant support . Thats a good question, one thats really going to heat up in the next week or so. Leading into some of the other pushes, there was a lot of pressure placed on senior white house officials like reince priebus, steve bannon who were tasked with managing the Freedom Caucus and failed to get those votes on the board. But now the tables have kind of turned a little bit. The Freedom Caucus seems to be there and it is the moderates who are holding out and that is a situation the white house is more comfortable with and the thing you would hear from them all along is the Freedom Caucus, these are our people. They want to be with the president. They dont want to be against him. And this situation in which the moderates are the ones kind of holding out allows them to sort of place the blame on moderates in congress, as opposed to on the more hard line conservatives. What that will end up meaning is that paul ryan is going to be responsible for twisting the arms of moderate republicans who the end to vote with leadership and, so, well see if theyre able to do that. It seems like people are feeling much better about the prospects going into next week, even though it will be pretty close. Guys, i want to play a little more sound if i can from the interview the president did. First of all, after saying the first 100 days werent important, hes doing a lot of interviews. But listen to what he says about china and the president of china and what hes willing to do on north korea. My problem is that i have established a very good personal relationship with president xi. I really feel that he is doing everything in his power to help us with a big situation. So i wouldnt want to be causing difficulty right now for him. All right. Kimberly, first to you. Where is china . As we sit here this morning where is china on north korea quickly . And the president leaning on these personal relationships, how far can he go with them . So china has already cutoff its coal imports from north korea and it has threatened to cutoff its oil exports to north korea and theyre one of the only people who supply north korea with oil. So these are major threats that may have kept north korea from doing the nuclear test we were all expecting last week. But what analysts are saying who watch this on a regular basis is they need china also to follow through with cutting off north koreas access to some of its Financial Services to really make the regime feel hurt and to put them under pressure. And douglas, about this relationship the president feels he has with the chinese president , is it similar to the business relationships hes had in the past . Can he expect as much in return . Yeah, i think so. And its probably an important and good thing donald trump seems to be getting along well with china. It seems to me it is part of this north korean strategy. John f. Kennedy had a rough first 100 days. And kennedy decided to get out of the slump of the 100 days by going to congress and saying, were going to put a man to the moon by the end of the decade. Donald trump seems to be on a 100th Day Ratcheting up the idea of war on the korean peninsula, a war nobody wants. But i think part of that strategy is this New Friendship with china and perhaps u. S. china can be the two Big Super Powers with a face and you dont have china reacting to what the United States may do to north korea. I think he feels it will be a military win and people will see him as a strong commander in chief. All right. Thanks so much. We are waiting to hear from the u. S. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson. Will he announce this new willingness to negotiate with north korea. He speaks to the United Nations very shortly. Where are the votes on health care . An update and head count and whether the effort to repeal and replace obamacare may be dead for good. And the president s obsession with the electoral map. Why he revealed a map of red a new setback for republicans in their plan to repeal and replace obamacare. A vote on health care has been delayed. The party seems fractured about how to move forward. Joining me now dave of virginia. Congressman, thanks so much for being with us. The Health Care Amendment that has been proposed as it currently stands wont allow insurers to charge higher rates. Even when we have access to health care, i mean, having coverage doesnt necessarily mean access and there is people who have scored this amendment and believe that its going to cost people with preexisting conditions even more money to have coverage. So they will have less access to health care than they presently have. People with preexisting conditions will have less access than they currently have. Why is he wrong, congressman . Its not so much about being right and wrong, but there is five ifs that come before that. In the first place, that person would have to have discontinued coverage to be in that spot. In the second place, the amendment offers choice to the states, choice of economics in american thought is usually a good thing. So it assumes that the state opts out of the regulars. If they do opt out they could pick any set of regulations they want. The governor is probably going to go with the liberal formulation, which wouldnt go that route. So you could get there if you want to piece together the worst possible scenario. But even in that case there is 1 120 billion weve put and compromised on. So weve compromised like crazy in getting our friends across the conference to yes. There is 120 billion for preexisting conditions and we just added another piece that enhances coverage and reduces prices for another 15 billion. Weve got that one covered coming and going. I appreciate you laying out the choices here because thats exactly what this is about. This is about choices states are making. You were an Economics Professor for years. So lay out the case. Also a Free Market Conservative here. Why people with preexisting conditions should be guaranteed the same rates as other folks. Well, theyre not guaranteed that now, right . Thats what i mean. Whos doing the guaranteeing that every single case is going to be fully paid for . Under obamacare thats clearly not the case. Well, the Community Rating requires that people of a certain age be charged the same amount for Health Insurance regardless of whether or not they have preexisting conditions. So these guaranteed by that argument do that now. This is a choice. This is a choice that i think the American People need to be aware of, that some states can choose that people with preexisting conditions can lose the guarantee of no, no, no. Thats not accurate. In obamacare, preexisting conditions is a regulation in there. Were not getting rid of that regulation. It is still staying. Absolutely true. But you are removing the requirement that Insurance Companies charge the same amount for people with preexisting conditions. So if you hike the price on them, and this is the argument dan donovan made. Thats what i just covered. Thats not going to happen because also in the bill it assures that cant happen. No, no. Read the bill. No, i did. The state has to come up with a better plan that assures that wont happen and a lynn ral government and a liberal state is not going to do that. You cant pass the common sense test on this. The requirement is in the amendment is that the states have to justify it in one of five ways, one of them would be providing access to people with preexisting conditions, but thats not a requirement. They could also justify it by saying im lowering premiums for everybody. What state is donovan from . Hes from the state of new york, sir. Good. How do you think new york is going to go down that road . Right . Thats what im saying. Last time on the financial crisis, we let the federal government say banks dont have to assess risk anymore, right . Banks cant do banking anymore like you are saying on the insurance here. We had a Housing Collapse ruin the financial markets. Now the federal government in its infinite wisdom is going to weigh in and say insurance cant do insurance and you have to charge the same prices for everybody. Its already in the ditch. Obamacare failed. And so what were trying to do is fix the Insurance System and still provide for everyone with preexisting conditions. But 120 billi 120 billion in ri for that. You laid this out very clearly. Thats why i enjoy talking to you here. There are people from texas, for instance with preexisting conditions and its something that needs to be laid out, that they could choose a path that would lead to higher rates for them, correct . Politicians very rarely vote for spinach these days. The probably of that happening is about zero. So is there a possibility that someone could be worst off . Probably. But 99 probably and i just laid out the entire case, along with the fact that obamacare, which follows your logic, which everyone gets gold plated Insurance Coverage but no one can afford it because the deductibles are 10,000. So you have the coverage, but we could insure that again. Lets give everybody gold plated insurance products, but they cant afford to use it so youve got an Insurance Card and you cant go because the average American Family only has 400 in savings right now. Were providing a better path. Free markets have always produced the best outcomes. You get lower prices, more output, better quality, Product Variety and all that. Central government planning has ruined Social Security and medicare, ruined the housing market. We like to give some power to the states. We have to balance their budgets and new york will do the rieg thing for new yorkers and im confident of that. Professor, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. All im saying helping to lay out the choices that are being right now. Thanks. Come back and well talk about it again. Any time. Thanks, john. You bet. All right. President trump says he misses driving a car. Here is a question. When is the last time he actually drove a car . That and new questions about russian connections. Thats next. Man when people ask me for whiter teeth, i always tell them, the thicker the enamel, the more white youre going to have. I would definitely recommend the new pronamel strong and bright to my patients. Pronamel strong and bright toothpaste helps to actually strengthen the enamel. Its going to keep that enamel strong. Its going to keep it white. Patients get what theyre asking for. They want whiter teeth. Theyre going to get it with this. Not only what dentists are looking for in a product, but also what patients are looking for in a product. 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Joining us to talk about this, former manager for mcs 2008 president ial campaign and the former Lieutenant Governor of south carolina. I miss my old life, he talks about missing driving a car here. He sounds forlorn. It is harder work than he thought. Does donald trump enjoy being president . Does he want this job . I think he does. This is a change. Well put him on the racetrack if he wants to have a little fun in a car. But it is a different lifestyle for him. Here is a business guy that had never served in any Political Office whatsoever. And i think when you hadnt done that or been in that firing line, it is a different lifestyle. I can tell you it comes with a different set of responsibilities. Hes got the most responsibility of anybody in the world right now. And, so, im sure it has been a dramatic lifestyle change, but hes adapted well. If there is one people might suspect or predict might be president it is president of the United States. It is something he campaigned for. So to be surprised now is pretty interesting. On the other thing, look, every president who comes into office is daunted or awed by the size of the task. President obama after his first 100 days said, look, we have more problems. That is different than i thought it would be. So totally is President Trump that far off than the other president s before him . Look, being president is hard. Hello. Yeah, of course it is. The Donald Trump Campaign pretty much ignorant about global affairs, about the way washington works, about, you know, creating and legislating Public Policy and as a result he made the Sweeping Campaign promises, right . I am going to get rid of nafta. I am going to build a wall and have mexico pay for it and most notely, i am going to repeal and replace obamacare. Now he is facing the realities of guess what, i need china on north korea. If i get rid of nafta, i get rid of 14 million american jobs. Guess what . Mexico is not going to pay for the wall. Guess what . Health care is complicated and probably the biggest guess what is, yes, being president is hard. So all i can say the duh. All right. Expert analysis right there. I want you to respond to duh if you will and also to the notion that, look, i think he may get used to the job but the job doesnt get any easier. Things happen. It will never become an easy job. Well, if you look at immigration, energy inpe den dense, defense, all of things were things he talked about during the campaign and started to make changes on. Depending on which side you want to support, hes had some great steps along the way and they will continue to get better as he finds his stride and understands how the legislative process works here in washington and hes not just fighting, you know, the other party, hes fighting within his own party because there are so many different factions. Youve got real conservatives and people that run under the banner of conservatives that really arent conservatives. Hes got a lot of different parts whether you look at keystone pipeline, the drop in immigration. 70 say if you look at where the economy has moved, where the Consumer Confidence is youre seeing a Good Movement in the right direction in so many fronts. I want to ask one more question to you, patty. On a poll from cnn has to do with the issue of russia and whether or not there was improper contact between the Trump Campaign and russia. And if there was, would it be a crisis or a major problem. If you look at the breakdown. 80 of democrats say there would be a problem. But 35 of republicans say if there were improper contacts it would be a crisis or a major problem here. So it does look like this has been turned into a partisan issue. If democrats care about this, do they have to convince republicans that it matters . I find that number pretty surprising myself. Heres what we know. We know russia interfered with our u. S. Elections through the hacking of the emails, through the creating fake news. What we dont know and what three investigations are currently trying to figure out is whether or not trump and or his campaign actually colluded with russia to make these things happen, to interfere with our elections. If there is evidence that trump or his Campaign Colluded with russia, thats treason, my friend, and that is a major crisis for any president. We dont know yet, but well find out certainly in the next, you know, several months. Patty and andres, great to have you with us this morning. Thanks so much. Happy 99th day of the administration. Thank you. High drama at the United Nations. In a few minutes we will hear from the Secretary Of State Rex Tillerson on north korea. So did u. S. Policy change overnight . I have asthma. One of many pieces in my life. So when my Asthma Symptoms kept coming back on my longterm control medicine. 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Ask your doctor if 24hour breo could be a missing piece for you. Learn more about better breathing at mybreo. Com. Neutrogena® see whats possible. Sglrchl. The first numbers are in and they fell short of expectations. 0. 7 growth is the weakest growth in three years. I am joined by christine. Not good. It underscores a narrative that actually President Trump won on, that the recovery since the recession has been sub par. The economy should be doing better. The president has promised 3 growth. But this puts it into perspective. 0. 7 growth is a slowdown of deceleration really in the American Economy and the economic growth. Look at the third quarter. You had better growth there longer term. You hadnt seen sustained 4 growth in decades, right . You have to go back to the clinton years. So the president can spin this two ways and say this underscores the need for tax cuts and tax reform. This is why you need to implement my policies, congress, otherwise you will have this lackluster economic growth. On jobs the president is very quick to own the jobs of the first 100 days. I dont think hes going to be quick to own this. Exactly. Ill take the jobs. I wont take the gdp. Again, he did campaign on creating jobs. Do you have a sense of how many jobs have been created. He has done all right here when you look at the 317,000 jobs that have been created. 25 million jobs over the next ten years on job creation, hes actually doing pretty welcome paired to the past few president s. Much better than obama. But Obama Took Office during that recession when we were hemorrhaging jobs. Trumps numbers are the best since clinton. If he wants to reach the 25 million hes promised, hes a little behind. He needs to create 208,000 per month. The numbers just arent there. But American Companies are still shipping jobs overseas. It shows more than 4,000 jobs have left the country in trumps first 100 days. Another 2,000 set to leave in coming weeks. It is not mexico and china. The data shows up that more jobs are headed to india, which economists always say you are fighting the crisis that happened ten years ago. We are talking about tariffs and renegotiating nafta. But india is where these are doing. We should note the jobs that donald trump created were created during his administration. So i think the president could take credit for a change in the Way Companies do their pr. They are very quick to say, hey, we are investing in the United States and we are going to grow jobs in the United States and we are going to build factories. Great to have you with us this morning. Thanks so much. Minutes from now the United Nations Security Council holds a special meeting on north korea. Rex tillerson will speak there. He indicated the United States might be willing to speak with north korea directly. If he meant it, it is a huge policy shift. Were watching this very close. Stay with us. All right, frustrated, fearful and fed up. Blue state voters who did not vote for President Trump are weighing in on his first 100 days. Cnns kyung lah has their story. Reporter across Californias Fields im nervous. Reporter and its cities 100 days of i cant believe this is happening. Reporter to the east coast states of maryland. And massachusetts. At this point, us staying out of World War Iii seems to be the number one priority. Reporter the blue states, where donald trump overwhelmingly lost. 100 days into his presidency, fear that theyre losing their country but promising a fight. The state of california, the largest, bluest state in the union, leading the fiercest opposition. I dont think he can be impeached soon enough. Reporter at milis coffee shop in the heart of liberal l. A. , i meet alex martini. He frightens me. Trump frightens me. Reporter for the first time in this millennials life, shes afraid the president will hurt her. She is on obamacare. With Type 1 Diabetes physically, i cannot physically survive without insulin. And without Health Insurance, this device is almost 4,000. Its almost embarrassing to be an american. Reporter i head 400 miles north to californias central valley. Trumps Immigration Policies sewing fear in the fields that feed america. How many people have their papers . Nobody. Maybe just me. Theyre scared to go out, scared to go to the store because they think immigrations rolling around. Reporter farmer joel del vasquez, the son of mexican migrants, couldnt get enough workers this year, problems that escalated after the election. When he talks about mass deportations, that makes me nervous. Putting a wall up on the border, that makes me nervous. Reporter and that affects your bottom line. It does, because we can grow the crops, but then we cant pick them. Reporter 3,000 miles away lies baltimore, maryland, a Majority Black City where only 12 voted for trump. On a stormy morning, i meet melissa bagley, baltimore born and raised. Do you think the president has any insight into your life . Absolutely not and i dont think that he cares to. Reporter baltimores challenges unemployment, crime, and budget shortfalls. Bagley has lived through all of them. The fact that young, black boys, not giving birth to five. Them, my city is screaming out for help. For all. About being a president i say, wow, but hes failed. Hes failed what he promised. Hes failed at this point. Reporter on the other side of baltimore works dr. Crystal watkins johansson, neuro strst at johns hopkins, a world away, but she, too, feels shut out. From what i hear and i see, i dont feel im represented at the table. Reporter you dont see yourself at the table . What happens to you in four years . I think thats where the anxiety comes from is because we dont know. Reporter anxiety felt from urban baltimore to idyllic massachusetts. Every single Congressional District in this state voted for hillary clinton, a liberal unity, awakening activism. [ church bells ] greenfield. Its sunday, and reverend Cory Sanderson is calling on his progressive christians to be the countrys conscience. The truth is out there. Reporter you see the church as a force of resistance . Mmhmm. Yeah, i do. I do. He may be underestimating the power in the people and in the sense of resistance against what hes been doing. Reporter after the service, as Church Members share pastries and coffee, i meetsendra davis, age 21, a music student whose personal crisis collided with trumps election. I actually had an abortion in january this year. I dont want that to be taken away from other women in the future throughout his presidency. Let it shine reporter just days after her abortion, she joined the Womens March In her town square to defend choice. You factor into some of this thinking . He factored in, definitely, because i was scared that once he became president , he would make abortions illegal. It was disappointing to me that he was a part of my decision. Some of us have been here since november. Reporter gloria started this grassroots Opposition Group in hadley. I dont know if its because we have this moment where we almost had our first woman president , and so now were kind of pissed off. Reporter angry, but also realizing shed become complacent, even on her most personal issue, gay marriage. The Supreme Court decision came out, and that was really special. Reporter how are you today different than before november 8th . Im way more involved. I am not falling asleep again. Reporter a repeated refrain of determination across three blue states to derail a presidency. Kyung lah, cnn, in california, maryland, and massachusetts. All right, our thanks to kyung for that. We have live pictures now from the United Nations we want to show you. These are live pictures inside this meeting of the u. N. Security council. Any minute now, the u. S. Secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, he chairs this very special meeting on north korea and its nuclear program, this amid some startling developments overnight, a possible shift in u. S. Policy calling for direct, or at least open to the idea of direct negotiations. Well be right back. Bp engineered a fleet of 32 brand new ships with advanced technology, so we can make sure oil and gas get where they need to go safely. Because safety is never being satisfied. And always working to be better

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