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President in a sign of progress is meeting with the chinese vice premier here at the white house and Steve Mnuchin treasury secretary just saying moments ago that progress is being made. And so clearly there is some movement going on in terms of this trade deal between the u. S. And china that we really havent seen previously when hopes had really been dashed anything would be reached before the election. President trump talked how the chinese signaled they wanted to wait until after the election, but now there appears to be movement on trade. Were waiting for more details, brooke. Pam, thank you. Go straight to cristina alesci, our Business Correspondent on how markets are responding to those key words from pam. Progress being made. How is the dow . Reporter the dow is definitely up. It has been up all day on optimism that a trade deal of some sort, i just want to couch that, will be reached. What this really is, is an easing of tensions, what ive been hearing from my sources all week, that is does, it likely will fall short whatever is announced of a comprehensive trade deal, but all the market wants to see right now is some easing of tensions, and it seems to be heading in that direction. Very key here is the fact that it looks like based on reporting from kevin liptak and my sources that what will be avoided is the tariff increases going into effect next week. Thats the critical part of this equation that wall street was really looking at, but let me just take a step back and tell you what this means. One, this is not a comprehensive trade deal, the way that the chinese see this, as the beginning of a longer discussion. Earlier today i reported the fact there may be continued discussions in china with secretary mnuchin and lighthizer, the u. S. Trade representative, and Going Forward i think this is a sign also that President Trump needs a win, and thats really important to him right now with the impeachment inquiry hanging over him and a backlash from republicans on his decision to pull troops from northern syria. He needs a political win. The trade deal right now could be ousted ambassador told the House Committee that she was from President Trump as well as what she called unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives, a direct quote from her. Yovanovitch served the nation as a diplomat three decades appointed by both democratic and republican president s but her time as ukraine diplomat unexpectedly recalled from her post amid we know were efforts by Rudy Giuliani and two associates of his to pech her out. Turns out the president had a hand in this as well. In her Opening Statement today, obtained by the in tnew york t yovanovitch takes us into how she would no longer be needed at the state department. Quoting now, i met with the deputy secretary of state who informed me are the curtailment of my term. He said that the president lost confidence in me and no longer wished me to serve as his ambassador. He added that there had been a Concerted Campaign against me and that the department had been under pressure herb from the president to remove me since the summer of 2018. He also said that i had done nothing wrong. That this was not like other situations where he had recalled ambassadors for cause. Yovanovitch also did a pointbypoint rebuttal of several claims made against her including that she is disloyal to the president and said she would be impeached. Yovanovitch says neither is true. Also she says she has never met the former Vice President s son hunter biden. She does say she met joe biden over the course of the years but never discussed the company for which hunter biden was board member and yovanovitch also says she had minimal contact with Rudy Giuliani. So with all of that said, go straight to manu raju, our senior congressional correspondent. Reading through the nine, ten pages of her Opening Statement, it was a wow. Also she talked about the damage she feels is being done long term to, you know, diplomats and folks at the state department. Tell me nor about whmore about said . Reporter right. Incredulous her dismissal in her base was based on unfounded, unsubstantial claims she said by people with questionable motives one of those from Giuliani Associates who said she believed their personal financial ambitions essentially played a role in all of this. Yes, she did raise significant concerns about the longterm impacts of the state department and whats happening at a critical time with the u. S. ukrainian relations. Today we see the state department attacked and hollowed out from within, Congress Needs to take action now to defend this great institution, and as thousands of loyal and effective employees we need to rebuild diplomacy as a first resort to advance americas interesting and the front line of americas defense. Not doing so will harm our nations interests perhaps irreparab irreparably. Thats part of the discussion behind closed doors and also discussion about concerns republicans had and giuliani had raised about she allegedly was disloyal to the president. She did recite point by point pushing back on those claims that had been made as part of what she believes is an effort to go after her, a Smear Campaign of sorts and son none of that is essentially true. The question ultimately now is what else do democrats and republican, have they learned in the testimony going on since about 11 00 a. M. Eastern time. A break for lunch. Members declined to comment. One member saying she was subpoenaed to appear. Others have not confirmed that at all, but theres been a lot of questions why she was allowed to appear, why she did appear, because shes still a Current State Department employees and as you know the white house and state department has taken steps to deny access and testimony to what they view is invalid impeachment inquirienquiries. A lot of questions what shes saying behind closed doors but we sgect to continue at least several more hours. Thank you, manu. Keep your ear to that door and meantime lets discuss. Cnn legal analyst and former new jersey attorney general and an Investigative Reporter for times and a Cnn National Security reporter. Kylie, begin with you over at the state department, because state is really getting this onetwo punch today because you have yovanovitch, we ran how shes hitting back hard at this president while you also have Senior Adviser to state Department Secretary mike pompeo quitting because he felt the secretary did not express enough public support for state officials caught up in all of these ukraine investigations. I have to ask you, what is the mood like over at the state Department Today . Folks are clearly angry and frustrated but the thing here, brooke is that theyre no longer staying at the state department in line quietly, not saying anything about what is happening. We have mckinley, who resigned because of frustration about the lack of support secretary pompeo shown for ambassador yovanovitch recalled abruptly for political reasons and ambassador yovanovitch herself making very, very declarative statements about what happened in her ousting and telling her story. This is not a state department that is willing anymore to remain silent. Folks ive talked to throughout the day are happy to see that. Theyre happy to see the department is not being completely undermined and overrun by a political agenda, but theyre fearful of what could happen here, because we really dont know if ambassador yovanovitch will be able to remain in her position. Shes still technically a state Department Official and able to fairly and fully tell her story. So on all of that, what i wanted to ask about. Since shes still on the state payroll. We saw what happened to ambassador gordon sondland, supposed to testify a couple days ago, state department said, no, youre not, because the white house said, no, youre not. Why was she allowed to testify this morning . Issues subpoena. Sondland was subpoenaed and said he will honor that next week. Too early to tell. The committees are doing, and i think this is right. If your boss in the state Department Tells you not to go and you have essentially a request for a voluntary testimony i think people are in a hard position. Once a subpoena comes, thats a lawful order from congress saying we want you to appear. Either way, youre either going to defy a lawful order from the United States congress or youre going to defy your boss and here i think the decision to talk is, is happening individually with the state department employees. Now, i would balance that with documents, which i think it will be up to the state department to turn over. I think well see people testify, but we wont necessarily see the documents. Got it. Matt to you. Also just remember that back on that, what was it . July 25th phone call, President Trump referenced yovanovitch on that call with his ukrainian counter part and she was ousted at a time when just asked to extend her tour and, two, a newly elected ukrainian president and would likely want ta continuity of ambassadorship, but the Trump White House did not. Why would they want her out, matt . They clearly saw her as an b obstac obstacle. Looks a lot like an obstacle to what they wanted which is a new investigation into hunter biden and the former Vice President joe biden. But throughout this they clearly see her as somebody whos not carrying water for that agenda and by all appearances by what she said it appears that mr. Giuliani really did see her as a problem and wanted her out and they wanted to clear the way for somebody that would be i guess more onboard and more willing o to, to get onboard with this idea of opening this investigation. In a reading of her Opening Statement, a graph i wanted to highlight that struck me. Kylie, for you. Today we see the state department attacked and hollowed out from within. State Department Leader shep with Congress Needs to take action now to defend this great institution. She sends the graph saying i fear not doing so will harm our nations interests perhaps irreparably. Kylie what would that harm look like long term . Well, she goes on to detail what that harm could potentially look like. She says it could be resignations of state Department Officials which we have already seen to some degree and she says result in ambassadors not being trusted by the country theyre in to speak on behalf of the president. Thats another thing she says. Clearly an issue for herself when she was in ukraine. Another thing she says is that it will allow individual people to then come in ands use official channels for their own personal gain. To circumvent diplomats and not be doing things in the interests of the public good. The other thing she points out is that all of these changes are only going to benefit american adversaries and she specifically points to russia as one of those countries that would be benefited if the state department goes through the demise that she is predicting could happen if this isnt stopped. I see you nodding out of the corner of my eye. Yeah. I was thinking about one of the statements, things we read as part of the statements the suggestion by the former ambassador she was pushed out because people didnt like her anticorruption work. If we think about what kind of a message it would send for people who have a private financial interest who dont want the u. S. Doing anticorruption work abroad to just have the president or other emissaries take someone out is a terrible message for political corruption. Matthew, do you think the damage is irrep prraable . Kl relationships be rebuilt . How are other countries viewing the United States now . Look, like any relationship, via personal or dimatic one. It takes time. A bigger issue the ambassador raises about institutions. There are developing countries around the world, very weak institutions where the ambassadors, whom ever really dont represent their government and everything is done personally by the president , Prime Minister or their friends or family. You know, the u. S. Has always been very different from that where our institutions have mattered. It were inches towards a place somebody whos an ambassador doesnt speak for the country but this guy, a lawyer or the president does is a dangerous place for america to be. Listening this i was handed a piece of paper. Looking at this first time. Three chairs statement on ambassador yovanovitch. Schiff, intel chairman Elijah Cummings and ingle chair of foreign affairs, their statement theyve just released. Last night the committees learned that the state department at the direction of the white house directed ambassador Marie Yovanovitch wow not to appear for her voluntary interview today. This is the latest example of the administrations efforts to conceal the facts from the American People and obstruct our lawful and constitutionally authorized impeachment inquiry, and it goes on. Obviously, the news, back to you, going full circle, they directed her not to show up, but she still did. This is an extraordinary thing that were seeing which is essentially shes stepping forward as an employee of the state department saying i have an obligation both to honor congress subpoena and share the information she has. What would be interesting is what happens to her as a result of defying the white house and state departments order pe they may fire her, take discipline action against her. Its completely defensible what shes done with a lawful subpoena. In response, the second graph of this, issuing a subpoena to compel her testimony this morning. The duly authorized subpoena is mandatory and the legitimate order from the administration has that force. She is complying and answering questions before its staff. Respond to this kylie from the state department . What weve seen before matches up directly with what were learning. Prevented from attending his deposition, Committee Found out about that hours before sondland was supposed to come forth and he also has been subpoenaed and were told hes going to appear next week. Clearly, the committee was ready for it this time when they found out she wasnt allowed to attend they had that subpoena ready to go. Ambassador yovanovitch followed the law there and has attended. Its important to follow what the white house is going to do, what the state department is going to do as a result of her not following the orders of the secretary of state of, of her boss, and following the law here which is going forth because she was subpoenaed. Because we know that the white house has put out some statement, some internal talking points to its allies questioning the fact that ambassador yovanovitch shouldnt be able to show up unless she has a counsel from the state department. And we dont know who she went to her testimony with today, but that will be interesting to develop and follow here. I think its also worth noting that Government Employees have an affirmative kind of responsibility to report wrongdoing, to report fraud, waste and abuse. While the Administration May want to say these team work for us and have to be loyal to us, part of their job, the agreement when they took their job they have to rob wrongdoing when he see it and there is possibly a real tension there. Matt and kylie and anne, thank you so much for all of that. That is happening today in washington. A whole lot more to talk about. Also today the president losing a major decision on his tax returns. A washington, d. C. Appeals court ruling lawmakers have the right to see them. So what happens next . Also, Rudy Giulianis financial dealings are under investigation after the arrest of those two associates of his. Hear how the president is now trying to distance himself from the man hes known for years and years. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Well be right back. M doing it. The supplements. The veggies. The water. But i still have recurring constipation, belly pain, straining and bloating. 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He said in that testimony that the president had changed the value on some financial statements. Democrats used that as a jumping off point to say they needed the president s financials to investigate these government ethics laws. Well, the president s attorneys all along have said this rationale is a ruse, because they said that democrats were requesting the tax returns just to harass the president. This morning the d. C. Circuit court of appeals arguably second most Important Court in the country ruled in a 21 decision that the president and his Accounting Firm mazers must in fact hand over eight years of accounting records. Weve since haereard from the president s attorney jay siekulw who says he will keep fighting this and have seven days to decide whether to appeal to the full d. C. Circuit. Remember, the initial rules is only from three judges. That could do that or go right directly to the Supreme Court. So the d. C. Circuit this morning ruled this subpoena for these it financial records, it did, in fact, brooke, fit into Congress Legislative mandate. So that was the ruling from the circuit court. Its been the ruling from the District Court and interesting here is that if this were appeared to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court actually repeatedly upheld Congress Broad power to investigate. So if the president s attorneys take this to the Supreme Court it could be interesting to see how this plays out. Given the precedent from Supreme Court where theyve said, yes, congress has this power to investigate, to issue subpoenas, and now, of course, the balance of the court being with the 54 conservative majority. Could get interesting. Bottom line, brooke, that democrats likely wont see these financial documents at any point soon. This will continue to play out in the courts. Brooke . Your last point about the Supreme Court and precedent siding with congress is so, so important. And good enough to stay on a little more friday with me. Thank you, and our legal analyst is back also. Surface level, how big of a legal blow is this . Significant ruling and at the circuit level which is the appellate level 21. A significant employblow for th administration. They have seven days to file an appeal and one of the president s attorneys tells cnn, we continue to believe this subpoena is not a legitimate exercise of Congress Legislative authority. Its important the kocourt ruling says two centuries of precedent, case after case upholding congress pouper to do what theyve done to issue a subpoena as part of its legislative function. Part of a legislative investigation. The opinion is strongly written citing all of these years of precedent saying congress does have this authority. The second point on the appeal is i think an important one which is that i would expect they will appeal first to the d. C. Circuit so all the judges who sit on the decircuit and potentially to the Supreme Court to draw it out longer. On the Supreme Court point, i hear you on precedent, but, again you could look at it as, look at all the conservatives on the court, look at the trump appointments on the court. You still say, yes. Precedent rules . I still think press conseceds because the critics separation of powers between congress and the executive. The reason the cases have said this for Years Congress is a coequal branch a right to have oversight over the president and an investigative function and really the argument that the administration is making against it would mean, again, the president was above the rule of law. That the rules didnt apply to the president. I think the Supreme Court will go this way. Congress is a coequal branch. Sometimes people forget that. Thank you for all of that. 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Also today, President Trumps personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani is at the center of the fallout involving the president in ukraine. Now giuliani is coming under more scrutiny. The feds are taking a closer look at higs business ties to these two men after their arrest on charges of violating Campaign Finance laws. And a Company Founded by one of these men where he hired giuliani on retainer that the name of that Company Fraud guaranteed. Not making it up. Fraud guarantee is the name of one of these guys companys. Just at photos emerof President Trump with Rudy Giuliani. Somebody said may about picture at a fundraiser. Somewhere, but i have pictures with everybody. I have i dont know if theres anybody i dont have pictures with. I dont know them. I dont know about them. I dont know what they do, but i dont know. Maybe they were clients of rudy. I just dont know. Reporter are you concerned about being indicted in all of this . I hope not. I dont know how he knows these people. Reporter theyre his clients. Okay. Well, then theyre clients. I mean, hes got a lot of clients. So i just dont know. I havent spoke ton rudy ab spo rudy about it, i dont know. General counsel for the federal Election Commission and a cnn contribute beer. Larry, good to have you on. Despite some of the behavior we have seen in recent months, lets remind everyone that Rudy Giuliani is a seasoned prosecutor. He has to know better. So what are the kinds of things that these investigators are looking for . What kind of legal jeopardy might he face . First, the indictment that came down describes actually a pretty intricate scheme to funnel foreign money into our elections to give illegal contributions to candidates at the federal and state level. To give 325,000 to trumps super pac. This is not something that happened at random. These people knew what they were doing or were told what to do. One of the things theyll look at, where did they get instructions . How were they old what to do . Prior to 2018 seemed not to be that involve ared in u. S. Politics and all of a sudden develop a company. Come up with a Global Energy producers, and they start making contributions when the Company Really has no money . Something is going on here where they were, i suspect, guided at least in some way how to do this. And one of the questions, how involved was Rudy Giuliani in all this . Right. Then as far as the president , weve heard the defense in the past, i didnt know. I didnt know. Notably when you think of that payment, 130,000 to stormy daniels. If it turns out Rudy Giuliani was acting on the president s interests but without his knowledge, larry does that exonerate the president on this single detail at least . Well, if he truly had no knowledge about this. Yeah. It might. But keep in mind that, know, giuliani also has a relationship with the campaign. If he was doing this on behalf of the campaign, then at least it implicates the president s campaign in illegal activity. So it is not just the president himself, but its hard to believe that the president , that President Trump claims as a business person he was very on top of things, a representation to be a micromanager at a sense had no idea what was going on here and no idea who giuliani was talking to, because frankly the two people in the indictment, fruman and parnas. Yes. Parnas. Especially fruman considered one of giulianis fixers in ukraine. Right. These are people important to the campaign, important to the whole scheme to try to involve ukraine in the investigation of joe biden. So its hard to believe that they had no idea what was going on. All of this is swirling, Rudy Giuliani may in pure giuliani fashion could not being to talk to talk to journalists. If you were representing him what would you advise him to do right now . A long time ago i would have advised him to shut up. To stop talking on tv. Two words. Right. But thats not going to happen with him. In some sense hes the gift that keeps on giving, because you have a sense hell appear on thn interview, but in that say things that are, that describe something thats illegal. You never really know whether its because he doesnt understand the law, or he doesnt care, or he just thinks he can so confuse things nobody will keep track of it, but he has a lot of explaining to do about this situation. Keep in mind, he had lunch with these two the day before they were leaving s day of, hours before going to dulles to fly out of the country on a oneway ticket. Right. Raises the question, any advance notice this would happen . There are a lot of questions that u. S. Attorneys will want answered. Larry noble. Thank you very much. Good to have you on. The insults are, and false claims, flying at a Campaign Rally in minnesota. This last night. President trump ranted about political opponents in washington in a long airing of grievances some old, some new. Many flat out wrong. 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Speedy was shot in a foot chase with the suspect. And i cried my lungs out. I didnt want to believe it. I did not want to believe it. The doctor came out and said he had passed, and i was just in shock. I was i couldnt i just couldnt deal with it at the time. I was in complete shock. Reporter the officer was one of speedys best friends, a week before the shooting they shared haunting text messages, a pact that if anything happened they would take care of each other the families. Its heartbreaking, because its something that you make as a promise as a friend, as best friends, and youre also going to hold your word to it but now were fulfilling it. Reporter the officer and others have stepped up for their buddy speedy taking care of his wife and their two children brianna and joachim. [ sirens ] they recruited dozens of officers to make sure joaquin didnt walk into the first day of seventh grade alone pap moment so powerful it left many officers in tears. They drove brianna tond college and helped her move into her dorm room and fill add stadium cheering wan kean and his first Football Game wore number 50 in honor of his fathers badge number 350 and name add street after him. Literally a family in blue. Theyve been there with us through everything. Tried to normalize our lives as much as possible. Are you excited about the game . Yes. Excited. Reporter speedy and his family were supposed to celebrate his birth together as a recent Dallas Cowboys game. Had was his favorite team. It was his brothers in blue who brought the family instead. We get to honor and share it with my husband in spirit. I know hes here. So many times its unbelievable. Im very thankful. Very thankful. Reporter the Dallas Cowboys might be known as americas team, but these officers are speedys team. Thank you. Reporter ed lavandera, cnn, mission, texas. Thank you so much. Ed lavandera and that entire department for sharing his story. Were going to continue on. 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