after thousands of years, democracy takes over in egypt. will the new man in charge be a friend or foe of the united states? >> i would have to have insurance. i don't think i could go without. >> but president obama's signature accomplishment could be struck down by the supreme court as soon as tomorrow. and an old drug back with a new and deadly vengeance, hooking and killing young, smart, and mostly white suburban kids. good evening, everyone. i'm don lemon. we want to get you up to speed. we start with new developments just in to cnn on jerry sandusky. susan candiotti has learned his defense team plans to ale his conviction on the grounds that he had infective counsel. we've also learned that if the judge agrees to hear an appeal, attorney joe amendola would step aside as one of sandusky's attorneys and would testify for the defense. sandusky's other attorney told listeners on a radio program saturday that he and amendola had asked to withdraw from the case before jury selection saying they didn't feel adequately prepared to defend sandusky. the judge denied that request. under pennsylvania law, sandusky's attorneys cannot file an appeal until after sentencing. sandusky is scheduled to be sentenced in about three months. he was convicted friday night on 45 counts of sexually abusing 10 children over 15 years. in the gulf of mexico tropical storm debby is heading toward panama city, florida. it is a huge storm with drenching rain. our meteorologist alexandra steele will join us in a few minutes with an updated forecast from the weather center. cairo's tahrir square filled with partners tonight, not protesters. supporters of president-elect mohamed morsi are celebrating. he was declared the winner with 52% of the vote. he's an islamist and long-time member the muslim brotherhood. at the white house, the obama administration had this reaction. the united states congratulates morsi on his victory in egypt's presidential election, and we congratulate the egyptian people for this milestone in their transition to democracy. we look forward to working together with president-elect morsi and the government he forms on the basis of mutual respect to advance the many shared interests between egypt and the united states. in his first televised address, he paid special tribute to his countrymen who died during last year's revolution. >> translator: i pledge once again that this blood will not go in vain. all this gratitude goes to the nation of egypt and the armed forces. the best of armies, to the armed forces, to all those members of the armed forces from the bottom of my heart, i salute them. >> the egyptian army still holds the real power in egypt, so i asked our christiane amanpour, our chief international correspondent and global affairs anchor for abc news, if today's announcement will make a real difference. >> well, it does in fact make a huge difference. all you have to do is look over this balcony. i was down there a lot today to see what a difference it does make. it is the first democratic free presidential election in egypt in thousands of years. this is a big deal to people here, particularly as you mention the army is still in effective control and has actually executed a massive power grab in the last week or so where it disolved parliament, put in its own interim constitution and reserved a huge amount of powers for itself. this all has to be worked out. what will the president be able to do? what will the constitution say when they actually write one? what kind of powers will the democratically elected president have? but for the moment, the people of egypt are very, very happy. we've spoken to so many who say simply, this is the first time we've ever been able to cast a vote that actually matters, the first time we've actually been able to choose our president. he did receive only about half the vote. the other half of the people voted for the old guard, really, hosni mubarak's last prime minister. so there is a division in this country. morsi is very aware of it and did pay tribute to all egyptians, christian, women, all minorities, all the sexes of society and said he was going to be a presidents for all egyptians. don. >> i want to ask you more on the substance of what's going on with the election. but what are we hearing now? are those fireworks or people shooting guns into the air in celebration? just wondering. >> reporter: no, no guns. let's be very clear about that. these are fireworks. there seems to be an endless supply of smallish fireworks. nonetheless, the sky continues to be lit up above this crowd that's been gathering ever since the election results were made official. there was a crowd before but it's become really big since then. >> christiane amanpour. we should tell you that morsi has vowed to represent all egyptians and promised to preserve all of egypt's international agreements. in colorado, fires burning out of control forcing thousands of people into shelters and cutting off access to some of the state's largest national forests. the latest to erupt, the waldo canyon fire near colorado springs. 2,500 acres have already been scorched. with temperatures hovering near 100 degrees. conditions are only expected to get worse. six active fires are burning across the state. tonight, rescuers are trying to reach someone who survived the collapse of a roof at a mall parking garage in ontario, canada. the cave-in showered concrete and other debris down into the mall's atrium yesterday. investigators don't know what caused the collapse. searchers can see a body buried in the rubble but can't get to it. 22 people were injured. today, stunned rescuers heard something. >> some of our search members this morning heard a couple of taps. they called for quick silence on the site, and there was a couple more taps. that was an indication to us that we were dealing with a rescue. >> the building itself is unstable, making any rescue potentially dangerous. the white house and congress are locking horns over the program known as fast and furious with the attorney general in the hot seat between them. we'll break it down next. ...the mickelson exxonmobil teachers academy... ...and astronaut sally ride's science academy are helping our educators improve student success in math and science. let's shoot for the stars. let's invest in our teachers and inspire our students. let's solve this. the fast and furious controversy is headed to the floor of the u.s. house. the botched atf operation led to the death of hundreds of mexicans and a u.s. border agent brian terry. on wednesday a house committee voted along party lines to hold attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress. the full house will take it up this week. i talked about it cnn contributors will cain and lz granderson. i asked will if the president's decision to invoke executive privilege if something is being hidden from the public. >> that means there's something the executive office doesn't want going out in front of the public. the question is, what is that, don? there's some on the right who allege some kind of conspiracy on behalf of the obama administration and suggest this is a public policy ploy to put the second amendment in the spotlight and say that gun control is not working. i don't know if that's true or not. we'll never know unless we see all the documents, but we do know that something is out there that the obama administration does not want the public to see. it could be as simple as incompetence. it could be a program that was no good and incompetence and bringing that before a house inquiry. but we just don't know. >> l.d., could it be something -- we don't know what it is. could it be something that should not be made -- the public should not be made aware of? and that they're -- i'm just asking. go ahead. >> exactly. i mean -- i think back to the scene in "a few good men" when jack nicholson's character is on the stand. when tom cruise says, i want the truth. and he says, "you can't handle the truth." i really believe in that. there are some things the outside world doesn't need to know. definitely don't need the outside world to know. this isn't something that was created by eric holder and president obama. this has been something that's been going on longer than that. it's my understanding this is the third sort of incarnation of a fast and furious sort of operation. >> what i meant by that is if there were some security secrets that we the public don't need to know about. but this administration did run on transparency, l.z., and to hear the president years ago talk about executive privilege and that the bush administration was hiding behind executive privilege and have him invoke executive privilege, it doesn't really bode well. >> keep in mind, this is the first time he's done so in his presidency. president bush did the same thing six times in his presidency. president clinton did it 14 times. >> that's irrelevant. >> so i think by comparison -- no, by comparison, i would think he has been the most transparent president, if you look strictly at that. that we've had for bush and as well as clinton. so i'm not necessarily seeing this as an example of him not keeping his word. there clearly might be something in there, seeing how long this program has been in place, that we don't need out that could affect our relationship with mexico. >> i want to move on to the next topic. why do you say it's irrelevant? >> no, however many times president bush invoked executive privilege is totally irrelevant. it's a totally legitimate question. are there security issues that president obama is trying to keep that from coming out? if that's the case, they have to go through all of these documents and categorize them and say why this is a threat to security. the burden is on them invoking executive privilege with all of those documents. >> here's the thing. it's terrible, and i saw the terrys interview, the parents, on fox news. it's heart-wrenching for that family. of course they want answers. to say from both sides this isn't a political issue or it's not being politicized, i think it's disingenuous. do you disagree? l.z. first. >> it's obviously being politicized because we're in the middle of a presidential election. every decision made by the president, everything that comes from the gop is going to be politicized. there's no way to avoid it. it's unfortunate because i do believe national security should be the primary issue. right now it just isn't. >> yeah, politics is definitely a part of this. just because you say something is politicized doesn't mean it's frivolous. in the end, politics is the check on this process. this can go through all kinds of inquiries, but in the end, whether or not something was done wrong here, politics is the check. it will be the hammer on those who either did or did not do something wrong. >> my thanks to l.z. and will. tropical storm debby is drenching the gulf coast and spinning off tornadoes. the latest on the storm next. tar and kills more types of infectious bacteria. neosporin® plus pain relief. for a two dollar coupon, visit neosporin.com. nbut proven technologiesief. allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. now to tropical storm debby. here's alexandra steel with the very latest. >> all right, don, here are the latest with tropical storm debby. it's actually the fourth named tropical storm in the tropical basin, and it's the earliest we've ever had a fourth named storm. it is historic already. here's a look at the big picture. it's a broad circulation, meaning it will impact a lot of people. also, it's moving very slowly, so it's not going to come in, dump rain, and leave. we're going to see anywhere between 10 and 15 inches of rain, maybe even an isolated 25 inches. the meat of this, the heart of this looks like it will be in northwest florida, kind of the west coast of florida, the northeast gulf of mexico. what we've already seen is a soaking of the west coast of florida. the biggest problem with this has been the track. very disparate in terms of computer models. these are what we call the spaghetti models, kind of looks like spaghetti. each color is a different computer model and their projecting of where this tropical storm will go. you can see the consensus certainly here is into the northeast gulf, but still there are some models that take it farther west. the national hurricane center looking at their official track had it before earlier in the day bee lined towards southeast carolina. not the case now. the newer advisories have it moving northeastward, making a b-line toward panama city, keeping it, though, making landfall on wednesday. keeping it as a strong tropical storm with maximum sustained winds at 70 miles per hour. the biggest problem with this, though, because of its slow nature, kind of stationary now, will be the flooding. also, the tropical threat here in blue, the blue delineates where there's tropical storm warnings, meaning the potential for heavy rain, isolated tornadoes, and tropical storm force winds. here are the biggest threats. the heavy rain, isolated tornadoes, which we certainly saw today in southwest florida, rip currents, coastal flooding. and this is it, because of this amount of rain, because of the slow nature of this. this looks like the bull's eye right here through apalachicola toward appalachia bay. the destination, where it goe seems a little less important. we'll continue to see the heavy rain along the coast. >> thanks, alexandra. now to the big stories in the week ahead from the white house to wall street. our correspondents tell you what you need to know. we begin tonight with the president's plans for the week. >> i'm athena jones in washington. president obama will travel to new hampshire and massachusetts on monday and georgia and florida on tuesday for campaign events. he and the first lady host a picnic for members of congress at the white house on wednesday. i'm paul steinhauser. the race for the white house could be rocked this week by an expected rooming from the supreme court on the controversial national health care law. known by many as obama care. an excited high court ruling on arizona's controversial immigration law could also make waves on the campaign trail. meanwhile, both president obama and mitt romney spent part of the week raising campaign cash. i'm poppy harlow in new york. following a volatile week for the stock market and major bank downgrades, wall street has a lot of news coming up to digest this week. we'll get the final reading on first quarter u.s. economic growth as well as the latest new home sales and home price data, but europe will continue to be the major focus with european union leaders set to meet to discuss banking and fiscal union proposals. and spain is expected to formally request eurozone aid for banks on monday. this will all impact u.s. markets. we'll keep a very close eye on it for you. here's what we're watching this week. i'm going to be joining the ladies of "the talk" as a guest on their show monday. then we're going behind the scenes of bethenny frankel's brand new talk show. plus, hollywood exes. we're look into the show starring the ex-wives of eddie murphy and will smith. all right. thank you, guys. this week we find out if president obama's health care reform gets a thumbs up or down from the supreme court. our dr. sanjay gupta details the path to obama care, a path that starts 60 years ago. that's next. i want healthy skin for life. 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"jeopardy!'s" game show host, alex trebek, had quite a scare. he's recovering from a mild heart attack. he checked into a los angeles hospital yesterday and stayed there today for tests. he should make a full recovery and begin taping his 29th season next month. this week will likely be pivotal in the fight over health care we form. we're waiting for the supreme court decision on what has become a symbol of the obama presidency. whatever the outcome, it is a confrontation that has been building for more than 60 years. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta looks at the epic battle, past and present. >> in putting his signature on what came to be known as obama care, the president did what others had tried to do and failed many times since world war ii, starting with harry truman. >> he wanted to increase the availability of doctors and hospitals and have the government serve as a guarantor of insurance for all americans. >> but in congress, truman's plan never got so much as a vote. >> the american medical association, very wealthy, very powerful lobby group, also vehemently campaigned the against truman's health care plans. >> we do not want socialized medicine. >> in the 1960s, a similar fight. ronald reagan, before becoming governor of california, recorded this message, pass medicare and the united states would soon become like the communist soviet yawn on. >> one of these days we're going to tell our children and our children's children what it once was like in america when we were free. >> but reagan's efforts fell short. president johnson signed the law creating medicare, health insurance for all americans over the age of 65 and medicaid, for the poor. it wasn't just democrats. richard nixon has big ambitions on health care. >> richard nixon, which i happen to work for, put forth a very comprehensive plan which looks a lot in structure like the obama plan. and then you remember we had a little problem with watergate and nixon resigned and health insurance totally died. >> by the early 1990s, there was the clinton plan to cover every american without spending more. >> health care reform must be achieved for the good of our country. >> too big, opponents said. too expensive, too complicated. >> we're going to lose our doctors. we're not going to be able to make medical choices anymore. it wasn't true, but these kinds of arguments resonated. >> like truman's plan, it never came to a full vote. around that time many republicans like house speaker newt gingrich started talking up something called a mandate, a requirement that every american buy his or her own health coverage. >> by having a mandate, you could have universal or near universal coverage and still preserve the private insurance system. so the idea of a mandate was a republican idea. >> by 2008, hillary clinton now running for president was pushing the mandate herself. >> i cannot stress to you how passionately i feel about fighting for universal health care. >> as she ran against the young senator, barack obama. back then, though, candidate obama was against it. >> senator clinton says, i'm going to make universal health care by mandating that everybody buy it. but if people can't afford it, it doesn't matter what the mandate is. they're not going to buy it. >> by election time, he came around to clinton's position. and now obamacare will likely rise or fall on that very pillar. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> all right. make sure you stay with cnn this week for complete coverage of the supreme court ruling on the president's health care plan. does any lawmaker actually answer a question anymore? we'll get into it. no talking points is next. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. i tell mike what i can spend. i do my best to make that work. we're driving safely. and sue saved money on brakes. now that's personal pricing. time now for no talking points. tonight the art of the dodge. >> just remember the five ds of dodgeball. dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge. >> dodge, duck, dip, dive, and bring it home by dodging again. works for the game of dodgeball, and in the game of politics when politicians don't want to answer questions directly. by the way, that's how this no talking points segment was born just about a year ago when senator rand paul tried to dodge my questions with talking points. >> so while many in the media -- >> hang on, hang on. again -- >> you're in the middle of my answer here. >> i know, but i'm asking to you answer the question. i don't want talking points. with all do respect -- >> that was during the debt ceiling debate. this time the immigration debate is bringing out the varsity squad of talking pointers. team captain, mitt romney. >> would you repeal this? >> well, it would be overtaken by events, if you will, by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution. >> i won't keep on about, this but just to make sure i understand, would you leave this in place while you worked out a long-term solution, or would you just repeal it? >> we'll look at that setting as we reach that. >> bob schieffer's question, will romney repeal or keep the new obama administration rule in place? >> it will keep the directive in place while he works out immigration reform in a more holistic manner. >> first of all, we saw what the president did this week was, you know, to take a short-term -- >> since time is short, i need to know about romney. >> okay. so candy asked him twice. maybe the third time will be the charm. >> it's such a simple question. would he keep that in place until he gets a broader reform? >> two parts to the question. let me tell you the first part, first of all. >> okay, no. maybe the fourth time. >> i got to run, but you can't tell me today whether he would leave that in place. >> what i'm telling you, all of these are subject to review and repeal. >> all right. so coming up now from the jv team, a possible gop vice presidential running mate, marco rubio. >> can any illegal immigrant become legal in the united states without first going home? >> all right, so what's the answer? >> the answer is three-fold. >> can anyone here become legal without legally going home? i'm not able to get a definitive answer from you, which is can anyone become legal without first going home? this is going to be the brass tacks question here when you get to immigration reform. >> again, that -- the answer to that question depends on the environment in which it's being answered. >> he never really answered the question either. just about everyone i spoke to in my unscientific survey, of course, both liberal and conservative, said they found the senator's less than forthcoming response to that question frustrating. for those of you who think i'm picking on republicans, here's one from your own party. darrell issa who has been savaged by the left lately. romney, gillespie and marco rubio might want to take a page from his playbook on catching the immigration ball and not dodging it. >> can any illegal immigrant become legal without first leaving the country? >> yes. >> very simple. i'm going to end this no talking points segment with a quote and some wisdom from the late, great, humorous will rogers who says, the reason political party platforms are so long is that when you straddle anything, it takes a long time to explain it. just stop dodging, please, and answer the darn question. and that's tonight's no talking points. world work. in high school, i had a physics teacher by the name of mr. davies. he made physics more than theoretical, he made it real for me. we built a guitar, we did things with electronics and mother boards. that's where the interest in engineering came from. so now, as an engineer, i have a career that speaks to that passion. thank you, mr. davies. in just a moment, an important and terrifying look at the recent surge of heroin use in this country. first, let's take a look at your headlines. jerry sandusky's defense team plans to appeal his conviction for child sex abuse on the grounds that sandusky had infective counsel. cnn has learned if the judge grants the appeal, attorney joe amendola plans to step aside as a sandusky attorney. he would then testify for the defense. sandusky's attorneys had asked to withdraw from the case before jury selection saying they didn't feel adequately prepared to defend sandusky. the judge denied that request. they'll have to wait to file their appeal until after sentencing. that happens in about three months. the former penn state assistant coach was convicted friday night on 45 counts of sexually abusing 10 children over 15 years. right now tropical storm debby is stalled in the gulf of mexico buteaded toward the florida panhandle. that's forcing evacuations tonight. some are mandatory. debby's 60-mile-an-hour winds have triggered tornadoes. one in central florida killed a woman. the big threat is drenching rain and the fear of flooding. some areas could get up to 15 inches of rain. a celebration, not a protest, in tahrir square. mohamed morsi has been declared the winner of egypt's first ever democratic presidential election. he's a strict islamist and a long-time member of the muslim brotherhood, but he's vowed to protect the right of women and honor all international agreements. so listen, i really want you to sit down, take a seat, and listen to this. it could save someone's life you know or love. it is no longer hiding in the shadows of downtown alleyways. heroin has a new home, bringing its highly addictive, oftentimes deadly power, to the streets of suburbia. here are some facts for you. the average age kids start using heroin, just before their 15th birthday, and most of them are white. more of them prefer to shoot it up than taking it any other way. why the increase here? it's cheaper than pills. drug agents say the crackdown on oxcycodone and other pain pills have made pills way more expensive for users, $20 to $80 a pill. heroin, way cheaper and more plentiful and now way more popular. two people who know that painfully well, john roberts and pam anderson, both parents who separately lost their sons to overdoses of heroin. and mr. roberts, thank you for joining us. ms. anderson, thank you so much for joining us. we're going to start with you, mr. roberts. you're a retired chicago police captain. you moved to the suburbs for a better life for you and your family. your son billy fell into drugs. tell us what happened. >> shortly after we moved, billy had just graduated from grade school and started in high school. like a lot of kids in america, that's where they're going to be introduced to drugs and be tempted and to maybe drug experimentation. unfortunately, billy making new friends in a new community, seems like he got in with the wrong crowd. by and large, don, the drugs are out there. it's in a lot of communities. i moved out to a beautiful suburb. i can see a farm from my back deck. this is a really nice area. after 33 years in the streets of chicago as a police officer, i never expected to find heroin. why do i do what i do now? it's all over the counties of chicago and many of our major cities. >> the reason i say that is because most people when they say you think about drugs, think about heroin, you think about rock stars or inner city, urban areas. that's not the case anymore. pam, i want you to tell me about your son matthew. he started taking pills as a student at uga. then it went into heroin. >> yeah, he started between his sophomore and junior year with some orally taken pills and moved to snorting and then because it doesn't give you the same high, you have to keep jacking it up and jacking it up. then he moved into the intravenous. that's when we found out about it and pulled him out of school. >> did you hear when i said most kids start to take -- the kids who do start to take heroin, before their 15th birthday, because it's so easily accessible. they can get that faster than they can get a pack of cigarettes. >> yes, they can. it's everywhere. in the college campuses, what they're doing with it, it's like their passing bowls of pills. the pushers, if i can use that word -- >> of course. >> they give it out for free to get somebody hooked. then they start with a lower price on the pills and jack it up, jack it up as they're more addicted. >> and many people will start, mr. roberts, with -- starting to take oxcycodone or take pills. it goes from prescription pills because the prescription pills become too expensive for them. so they go to heroin. heroin is cheaper. once you start to use heroin, it's not just addictive and you want that high. your body needs that. so they're hooked. they're going to have an issue for the rest of their lives. at the beginning of this show, as we said, either you're going to ends up dead or in jail most times. >> it's true. the problem is that there's a lot of drugs out there. not all of them are -- in fact, i don't believe so much in the gateway theory. but i do believe one gateway drug is the painkiller, prescription painkiller. they're opiate-based drugs. kids can get those in most of the medicine cabinets in our country. mom and dad -- i mean, you got a prescription, you don't use them all, you leave them there in case you need them. our kids are going in and getting them. you're exactly correct. they go out and want more. they try it again. they're already building a dependency and tolerance for the opiate-based drug. when they find it, they can use heroin and it's much cheaper. $10 a bag. here in chicago, a suburban kid can drive to the west side of chicago and buy a bag of heroin for $10. they're preferred customers. they will offer them a jab, a jab is 10 bags for 100. they'll give them 12 to 13 bags for $100. that goes back out to the suburbs. that's one of the reasons why this epidemic is spreading through all of our counties. >> it's even cheaper here in atlanta. i heard as low as $7 a bag. >> there's a book i've been reading called "the bluffs" there are a number of documentaries about the bluffs. where the kids from the suburbs go into the bluffs and buy these bags. when they see these white, young, affluent kids coming in. they know what they are there for. >> they drive in in their cars. >> tell-tale signs. >> they start missing their appointments. they cancel things. they're sleeping a lot. when they're beginning to come down from the high, they seem like they have a cold. they get feverish, lots of sweating, very cranky, and raspy because the heroin affects the respiratory system. >> it's tough. it's heartbreaking, but it's an important conversation. it takes a lot of guts to come out here and relive the worst moments of your life over and over again with the simple hope it might save a total stranger's life, like this young man. on this show, he described the hell he went through as a heroin addict. his story is next. so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. mine hurt more! mine stopped hurting faster... [ female announcer ] neosporin® plus pain relief starts relieving pain faster and kills more types of infectious bacteria. neosporin® plus pain relief. for a two dollar coupon, visit neosporin.com. just a few moments ago you heard my conversation with two parents, each who lost a child to heroin. after that, i got to talk to a young man who had the chance to survived, he is a former heroin addict. all the states you see in red, 32 of them, have seen increases in heroin-related patients between 1999 and 2009. just this week, houston police made their largest heroin bust ever. 17 kilos found stashed inside a car. unheard of in their parts. part of the reason it's becoming so popular, it's cheap, way cheaper than pills, offering much of the same high to users at a fraction of the cost. so who would know that better? no one would know better than bill. he got started on pills. it got so expensive he moved on. he switched to heroin. bill says he is clean now. he is sober and has been so for four years. congratulations on that. we hope you stay clean and sober. what caused you to pull yourself away from heroin? >> to pull away from it? >> yeah. >> you know, no addict really wants to stay on, but at a certain point, your life gets to the point where it becomes so unmanageable, so terrible that you have to do something. my life, like all addicts, got to that point. >> okay. so tell us about that. as you talk to us about your story, i want to say we have pictures of you sober and then pictures of you while you were using heroin. your parents knew you were using drugs. but that didn't stop you. again, you started, like most people start. you started with a painkiller and, you know, doing recreational drugs and moved into this because it's cheaper. >> right. absolutely. you know, it started innocently enough with a little bit of marijuana. it seemed harmless at the time. moved on to pills. then the addiction set in. i wasn't even aware of it. everyone else around me knew it was going on before i even did. there was a lot of denial. there was a lot of delusion. it took a very long time before i could finally admit that i had a problem. that was when i could finally start asking for some help. so, yeah, my parents knew. they did their best to try to stop me, but there was nothing that was going to. >> how did you get it your first time? >> i had a friend of mine. we were on one of our, you know, normal nightly, you know, smoking runs. a little marijuana. and this one particular night he had a little treat for me, and it was a pill of oxycontin. i tried it and loved it. i didn't just like it, i loved it. from that point on, i was asking for more and more until i was not only -- i was physically and mentally dependent on it. >> and dependent on oxycontin. and when you couldn't -- oxycontin became too expensive for you? >> yes. yeah, at that point, i started to, you know, i was pawning things, stealing from my parents, my sister. you know, everyone who cared about me. i, you know, could have turned them into enemies. i was doing whatever i could to get money to pay for it. but even that wasn't enough. i decided to move on to heroin because i heard it was cheaper. >> and it gave you the same high? >> absolutely. at a lower cost. >> at a lower cost. how long did you use it? >> about half the time that i did opiates was heroin. yeah, started out with snorting. of course, to be -- to conserve my money, i moved on to shooting it. >> what do you say to kids who are watching or parents who are watching? because, you know, heroin has been around for a long time. there's been a -- it's been used among suburban teens, mostly white kids, since the '90s. what they're seeing now, so many people dying now, and the use of it has increased over the last couple years. what do you say to parents, and what do you say to people out there? anything you want to say to them about using heroin or about heroin. >> well, to parents i would say, you know, know your child. talk to your child. don't rely on schools to do it. lots of parents think that they're just going to get taught in health class about drugs, and their kids know better. look for the signs. look for -- if you think something is off with your kid, you know your child best, and you should confront them about it. and to kids out there, students, teens, whoever is in that range that's starting to use, i would tell them, you are the rule not the exception. before people start, they believe that they are the exception. they are going to be the ones that are too smart to become addicted. they know about addiction, so that insulates them from becoming addicted. no. if you start this, you will end up in a bad place. >> i want to thank bill for telling his story. we all wish him the very best of luck. amazing story, of course. moving on now. jada pinkett-smith, like you've never seen her before. teaming up with the cnn freedom project and taking on a tough issue, human trafficking. check out her latest weapon in the fight against it, right here. ♪ so that is jada right there bearing it all in her music video entitled "don't sell bodies." it was directed by another heavy hitter, salma hayek. i had the chance to sit down with her on what drew her to such a cause. >> very multi-layered. i wish i could take credit for that, but my girl salma, she fought for that. i have to be honest with you because when salma hayek came to me, okay, and said, we going to do this video, but you're going to be naked. i was like, pause. wait a minute. hold up. salma, that's not happening. >> as you can see, it did happen. you want to hear more? be sure to catch soledad o'brien's interview with smith this week on "starting point." you can catch my full interview with jada pinkett smith right here next weekend on cnn. you don't want to miss what jada had to say. for years, a mystery has surrounded those huge statues on easter island. how did they get there? that mystery just may be solved. taking a look at the odd and unexplained in sunday night mysteries. chinese sight seers got treated to quite a sight. waves triggered by what they described as a fast-moving creature. possibly china's version of the lochness monster. a scientist that works at the lake says he thinks it was caused by salmon. and the mystery surrounding how the massive statues on easter island got there may be solved. researchers say they think the native inhabitants may have used ropes to walk the statues from where they were carved to platforms around the island. a descendant backs the theory up saying experts can say whatever they want, but they know the truth. the statues walked. so before we go here tonight, more often than we would like, life delivers us some really terrible circumstances, and it did just that for our cnn family. this week our colleague and our friend daniel funk passed away. passed away on wednesday. he was one of our tech experts here. he never lost his cool, even when we asked him some pretty silly questions, and we did it a lot. like, hey, dan, why isn't my computer working? he would just, you know, walk over and press the power button and kind of smile at us. he grew up in georgia. he was a huge falcons fan and