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white house with a story just in to cnn. jessica, what do you know? >> reporter: a senior administration official tells cnn that a senior member of the network has been killed. it happened overnight earlier today in north waziristan, pakistan. and a man by the name of, we're told played a central role in helping the hackani network attack u.s. targets in kabul and south eastern afghanistan. that he was killed in a part of pakistan. and this is considered a safe haven for the haqqani network. they say he is the most senior leader in pakistan to be taken off the battlefield. as you know, the haqqani network considered a terrorist organization linked to the taliban and blamed by u.s. officials for the attack on the u.s. embassy as well as the attack on u.s. troops among other attacks. >> let me ask but other attacks. i know the president greeted his counterpart in south korea. you hit him hard with some questions about not only iran but also the u.s. economy. on the economy, you asked him why he is not sitting down with congress and compromising to get people back to work. what did he say? what was his answer? >> reporter: he said he'll meet with republicans any time any place if they come ready to negotiate. but he does not want more political theater. he doesn't want a repeat of what happened during the negotiations over the debt ceiling. not his words, mine. so if they're willing to compromise, he'll do it. it sound not likely to happen. >> we learned today the state department has had direct contact with iran about the alleged plot to attack the saudi ambassador to the u.s. on u.s. soil. you asked the president who in iran knew? >> reporter: you know, he would not link it to the highest levels. he would not definitively say the supreme leader or the president of iran knew. he did say definitively that at high levels of government, there was knowledge. that the case in the u.s. is solid and so all of the iranian government will be held accountable and the u.s. is pressing allies to tighten sanctions and take more action against iran. >> jessica yellen at the white house. i want to bring you in. jurors are deliberating in the second day of the trial of komisarjevsky. six hours of deliberation and counting? deb? >> reporter: now we're up to seven, as a matter of fact. there are a lot of counts. 17 of them. six are capital felony. that means jury needs to find the defendant intentionally caused the death of these three family members. the mom, jennifer, and her two daughters. the defense had a very good argument but in the end there is a 90-minute taped confession by the defendant in which he really describes what can only be called a sexual fixation with the 11-year-old girl. he call her by her nickname almost as if they were friends. the jury looking at all this. they did look at the bat that was used to beat the father. he is the sole survivor. he is in the court right now along with the parents of his wife, the deceased wife. and they are waiting like everyone else. >> and we were talking about the initial accomplice who was tried, steven hayes. that jury deliberated for what? five hours over the course of two days. so this jury taking a little longer. >> taking a little bit longer. certainly the stakes are very high. he could find himself on death row. so they are taking their time. the defense, they took a different tack by saying bits intention. about intention. did he spend to kill these people when he set out to rob their home? the question does intention mean that it was the day before or an hour before. >> deb, thank you very much for us from connecticut. snext next, chris lawrence live at the pentagon talking about this virus attacking computers, controlling military dwroens the air force's down playing this whole thing. chris, what are they saying? >> they're calling it a nuisance. the air force doing a bit of an about face. for week they wouldn't touch this story. wouldn't come out and say anything public about it. now they're coming out trying to explain exactly what went on. they're calling this virus a credential stealer. they say it is not designed to transmit information or video to an outside source. it is not designed to corrupt file or data. so what exactly does a credential stealer do? the air force isn't exactly saying that. they do say that this had to do with some of the compute per are associated with that unmanned drone program. so all of the reaper and predators flying in places like afghanistan and libya, well, they're controlled by air force pilots at a u.s. base in nevada. and that's where they have the problem with the computers. >> so if they're calling this a nuisance, does this mean they're not so concerned? >> it doesn't sound like they're concerned. in their statement, they say the virus has been detected and quarantined. but when we follow up with a question to ask, has it been expunged, because one of the things the magazine reported when they first broke the story was that they had a real hard time getting this virus out. we asked, have you gotten rid of it? has it been expunged from the system? they were not able to answer that yet. >> chris lawrence, keep asking the questions for us. thank you so much. that's your reporter roulette for this thursday. still ahead, forget electric chair. how about a spray of bullets? one lawmaker says death row inmates should just line up in front of a firing squad. plus a father killing eight people at a beauty salon. wait until you hear what his neighbors have to say about him. why does it take a kid dying for someone to step up and say this is wrong? >> a look at homophobia in schools. lily tomlin will join me to talk about why this affects her personally. and he is not a governor or senator but herman cain is the new front-runner in the republican race. at least according to one new poll. with the primaries around the corner, can he sustain momentum? 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>> 9-9-9 plan. >> 9-9-9? >> you got it. a slogan the republican brings everywhere he goes. is it enough to win over conservatives and knock off the other candidates? gloria borger is standing by. that's next. also, get this. meg ryan? tom hanks? in space? wait until you hear about this rendezvous. tom hanks and meg ryan meet up in space. sort of. the actors have asteroids named after them. and those space rocks both got the closest to earth in september, giving a rendezvous to the romantic comedy duo asteroids. if you didn't realize, there are other famous names including robin hood and stephen colbert. that's when you know you make it. official michele bachmann, now herman cain has caught fire among presidential contenders. at least one poll putting him at the top of the field ahead of mitt romney. the poll you see there was done for the "wall street journal" and nbc before this week's republican debate in new hampshire. let's to go gloria borger, chief political analyst. would we be wrong to dismiss herman cain as just the latest flavor of the week among these hopefuls? >> reporter: i don't think you're wrong. i think it's completely accurate. you look at the history of this race. we've gone from favorite to favorite to favorite. you forgot donald trump. remember when he was number one? michele bachmann, rick perry, now herman cain. what happens is he become the new favorite and he starts to get the scrutiny that someone would get who is leading the presidential field like on his economic 9-9-9 plan that you've heard so much about. and you're beginning to hear conservative republicans say this is something we don't like. we don't like a national sale tax. so herman cain has to get ready for the scrutiny that he will get both from the media and the other candidates. >> and this all go back to mitt romney, does it not? i read your column. to quote you, you say there's a teensy problem. he can't just seem to be conservatives don't like him. what is the issue with him not connectioning with the party's base? >> reporter: they don't like him because they don't trust him. they go back to the 2008 race and the social issues. they don't trust him on his health care plan them don't like that he said, for example, in the last debate that he was in favor of the bank bailouts. let me give you a cautionary note here. which is, republicans generally early on don't like their presidential nominees. it wasn't as if they rush to embrace john mccain. they didn't even rush to embrace ronald reagan. there were people running to the right of ronald reagan. so eventually you'll probably see people come on board because they're going to want to beat barack obama. but it's not as if republicans run to the first candidate out there. they like to kind of sample the field a little bit. >> and let me mention sort of an aside. i know erin burnett sat down and interviewed herman cain so we'll work on turning some of the sound around. we'll have to hear about how he feel about being number one. where does the tea party movement play in all this? wasn't this supposed to be the year they broke through to challenge the gop's so-called elite? >> it was, it was. it was what they wanted to do. the problem with the movement that considers itself pure and is very new is that it is often very difficult to find kind of the perfect torchbearer. the perfect torchbearer might have been sarah palin, for example. but she has many flaws. maybe it was michele bachmann. she has many flaws. and on and on. what you see with the maturation of this political movement which is what i think you're seeing, we talk to some tea party people. they said, look, they don't love mitt romney. in the end he seem like a plausible candidate. they want to beat barack obama. those people from the tea party who won't be able to sign on with whomever the nominee is will just look for somebody else they can support next time around. it is the way it moves with new political movements. >> read gloria's column. to go cnn.com/opinion. thank you very much. now this. >> i knew scott through just being a neighbor. he came over to help out. my dad pass ad couple years ago. he took the trash out a couple time. a great guy as far as i can tell. >> a great guy. that's how one neighbor describes the man who is accused of walking into this beauty salon and opening fire. now eight people are dead. we're now hearing about a motive and seeing new video of that scene. plus, some alarming video. what one guy did on a subway train. not only dangerous. it could be deadly. 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[ ale announcer ] it's like gic! callod foa fr home an revie we'll offer free android artphone to you! hit i♪ [ laughs here's one for theast coast. now that's se detroit magi rit th male annncer ] one re way quicken loans is engineered amaze a florida laurm lawmaker says they should choose between the electric chair and a lead cocktail. in a statement he says, quote, we still have old sparky. if that doesn't suit the criminal, we will provide them with a .45 caliber lead cocktail instead. sonn sunny, that is some strong talk. is he opening a can of worms here? >> he certainly is. he is doing this, i think, to restart the conversation. because there has been that repeated conversation in florida and all over our country about the death penalty and about whether or not lethal injections are cruel and unusual punishment. he wants to sort of almost restart that conversation. i think probably stop the conversation and offer these alternatives. what really interesting about it, brooke is that correct florida would not be the only place in our country that kills people by firing squad. it is still legal in oklahoma, it is still on the books. even though it was taken off the books as an option for execution in 2004, there are about a handful of prisoners on death proceed could still choose death by firing squad because the law that was enacted in 2004 isn't retroactive. we still do have this means. executing people in our country. >> and i remember the case in utah not too long ago. ronny lee gardner who was the last person executed by a firing squad in the whole country. and using that case here. what sort of, i don't know. legal implications did that execution have? >> you and i talked about that execution last year. just last year. and he chose death by firing squad. and those that observed his execution were really horrified by it. because he was alive even after, for a bit after the firing squad shot him. so it certainly opened up a can of worms then and i think it will open up a can of worms now. this bill that is supposedly going to be passed. >> case number two, authorities in chicago are hoping new dna and technology that has really only been around a couple years will help identify the bodies of eight of john wayne gacy's victim. one of those prolific, if not the most prolific serial killers. he killed 33 men, boys in the '70s. he was executed in '94. the cook county sheriff's office high, talk to just last hour. they're exhuming these bodies to hope to find a match, to identify some of them. they're using dna samples to compel profile. now family machine who had a relative who up and vanished. >> hearing a case like this. it is 30 years old. how unique is it to use dna to hopefully give some of these victims families closure? >> i think it is being used more and more. there have been such strides in testing. this type of dna testing is just a few years old. i think it is a wonderful thing. these boys and men that are missing and that are dead, let's face it. this is someone's brother, father, son. the victims and their families deserve this. they deserve the identification. so a wonderful use of dna and i think we'll be seeing even more uses for dna because they still make a lot of strides. the innocence project in particular has really used dna in extraordinary ways. and i think we're going to see a lot more, discussing and researching this with dna experts. and they really do believe we'll see more ways of using dna in the near future. >> the cook county sheriff told me, i think it was the last 24 hours. they had gotten multiple hits. some of the guys investigating to see if they got matches just this hour. thank you so much. now this. >> i'm in the office right now. there were shots fired in a classroom. we need somebody here immediately. >> okay. we have the call and we have someone. we're getting somebody on the way. >> that is the call moments after a student on the right side of your screen walked up to his classmate and pulled the trigger. police say he targeted him because the boy was gay. coming up next, a look at homophobia in our nation's schools and how bullying can turn deadly. lily tomlin is involved in this new documentary. it is call teach your children well. she will join me well to talk about why something in her family has personally invested her in this project. i'm not a number. i'm not a line item on a budget. and i'm definitely not a pushover. but i am a voter. so washington... before you even think about cutting my medicare and social security benefits... here's a number you should remember. 50 million. we are 50 million seniors who earned our benefits... and you will be hearing from us... today and on election day. ♪ every time a local business opens its doors or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just good for business. it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $7.8 billion to small businesses across the country so far this year. because the more we help them, the more we help make opportunity possible. i'll speak live with lily tomlin in just a moment. first living green is become increasingly popular and some home designer were cashing in by thinking outside the box. we'll look at how some are breaking down the traditional four walls in this solutions. deep in the woods of upstate new york, a strange building is confusing residents. >> every time people show up here, wow, what is that structure in the woods? >> it looks like ufo but really it is a home in the round. a dome home. not just for looks. the arrow dynamics and off the ground build help protect the structure from hurricane strength winds and earthquakes. it also allows home owners like this family to take full advantage of the sun's energy. >> economically, it is also very profitable because we use so much less energy. >> in the sum where the sun changes its position work just the push of a button, the house follows along. allowing to it capture heat in the winter and keep cool in the summer. >> okay, stop. >> while the exterior protects it from night's elements, the interior is inspired by it mimicking a sea shell. >> people love seeing something positive for the environment and for they have. >> putting a new spin on living green. now to this. a touching new documentary is putting a harsh spotlight on the problem of school bullying. it is called teach your children well. it is a short film. it explores harassment, bullying and violence endured by thousands of students who are lesbian, gay, transgender. some of the students do the unthinkable, taking their own lives. the mother of one gives the account about how she found her son. >> i went out to the garage and i saw him over by the palm tree. and i thought he was picking a plum. i walked over to him. and there was a ladder next to him. and i saw his feet were about four inches off the ground. and there was a cord coming from the tree. so i grabbed him. and i yelled for my youngest son to come and get scissors. i was trying to hold seth up. while my youngest son cut him out of the tree. and he fell to the ground and he was dead. >> seth walsh died as the result of bullycide at age 13 on september 27, 2010, after nine days in a coma. >> bullycide. a powerful story and the voice you just heard is that of emmy award winning actress and comedian lily tomlin. she narrates this documentary which is she can as one of the films that changed the world. the film premiers this week. >> to see both of you. lily, i want to begin with you. how and why did you get involved in this film? i understand you weren't bullied yourself, as you talk about it. you had the gift of gab growing up accident but your brother was. >> my younger brother richard was bullied relentlessly, you know, to the point that he stopped going to school. he would hide out. he was terrified to go to school. and my brother was fun-loving and energetic and industrious. he is fine -- he is fine today. i don't want to even suggest for a moment that something happened, something fatal happened to him. but he had a terrible childhood and adolescence. until he got to be at an age where he realized that he was a totally worthy human being. but bullying really dismisses and discounts kids and people. but kids, we're talking about here. they take it so hard. they want so desperately to be accepted or to fit in. if they don't have the right support group around them, or people at school really intervening and helping, and reinforcing the fact that they're meaningful, worthwhile, decent, good human beings, they just absolutely can disintegrate. and i didn't want -- i'm tired of that happening to any kids. >> you're tired. a lot of people are tired of it. i want to play just one more piece of this if i can. a number of kids talking quite candidly about being bullied. let's listen. >> at home everything was great. in school, it wasn't. i guess like kids could just tell that i was different. >> i didn't want to come to school. i just didn't want to deal with what they had to say. i didn't know what i was up for. i didn't know what new students were coming in. it was really difficult. >> i have yet to meet anyone who is asking to be raped. i have yet to meet anyone who asked to be abused. physically, verbally, emotionally, spiritually. >> and you know, lily, clearly we're sitting here talking about this. bullying hasn't diminished with time and i think one of the, perhaps, sad pieces of this whole story is, you know, one of the reasons, if a kid is bullied at school nowadays. it just doesn't stay at school. people can text and facebook and that's part of the problem. >> and then it spreads even wider. e then, if they want to bully or they want to side with a bully person, then they, the news is out there and it is so prevalent. and in your face. and there is no escape. at least a kid in my day, kids used to be able to go home. for 10 or 12 hours, however long they were home from school, they had some respite. some relief from it. but it's constant. then when you have images coming ought, disparaging, demeaning imaging and words, i don't know how a lot of kids put up with it. i don't know how as many as do. >> how many kids put up with bullying. >> seem to roll over it. >> each and every day. >> all it takes in terms of solutions, one kid in a community mark the school, coming forward. showing that they're bold, they're brave, and that can really turn the tide. >> you can stop a bully in his tracks. his or her tracks if somebody will speak up and you show some kind of united front. just one kid saying, hey, i don't like that. that's not nice. stop that. or he's my friend. or she's my friend. because a bully is really a coward. and as long as they get away with it, or they, if they can intimidate, they might bully if you are. they'll just carry it as far as they can. and amazingly, one voice can really put a stop to a particular bullying incident. and make those kids maybe turn around even. you have to educate. you have to educate the parents. you have to educate the kids. >> and the teachers, the onus fall on the teachers as well. >> teachers. right. this is a terrible problem in the schools that teacher don't intervene. that's why i'm so glad that cat, who is sitting here with me, her film series, cat kramer's films that changed the world. this is the fourth in the series and we're having a screening on sunday here in l.a. and it gets the word out. it makes people, it gives, the film becomes a tool to educate teachers and students. >> cat, let me bring you into this conversation. why do you want this film to be part of your project? cat kramer's films that change the world. why? >> it's one of those things. i look for films like my father stanley kramer made films with social issues. i'm trying to carry on his legacy by having the screening series. i wanted to do something on the bullying crisis. it is out there every day. especially about homophobia and school violence. this film not only had seth's mother wendy, it is the only interview she would do two weeks after he committed bullycide. i have to say i was bullied through grade school, middle school. i'm even bullied now. when you're very young, you're bullied not only by the students but also by the teachers. in my case, i was bullied by some teachers. and what lily brought up earlier about the teacher being part of the whole thing. that's really the cause of a lot of it. the students, if one of them stands up, yes. if the teachers are bullying the students know they're going to mimic what they're doing. it is totally besides the students, the teachers and the parents, they have to look at these issues. >> hopefully this film is played the schools and pta meetings and churches and et cetera. so like lily said, it takes that one person. and that will really spread the word. ladies, best of luck to you with your film. thank you so much. >> thank you for having us. >> and breaking news now. we are just getting word of a verdict in the connecticut home invasion trial. deb is live in new haven. what do you know? >> reporter: brooke, the verdict is in. just a few moments ago, as a matter of fact. right now they are bringing in the defendant, joshua komisarjevsky. the jury also preparing to file into the courtroom. took them just about eight hours, twice the length of komisarjevsky's co-conspirator, ann accomplice in this terrible crime, the home invasion have dr. william petit, his wife and two girls, all three dying in this brutal fire. we're waiting to find out what the verdict is. i'm reading some notes here. it says jurors do not think to be looking at the defendant. some people take that as a sign that it means it did not go in his favor. i'm hearing in fact the petit family, he and his in-laws are in court. they're ready to hear what the verdict will be. the judge doing this very quickly. usually a 30-minute break. everybody gathers. they are doing it right away. we have our producer who is in that courtroom and he is sending us details as they happen. we'll bring you more. it does appear they've reached a verdict and it will soon be held in court. >> we want to get a quick break in. accept it. you can't change the way banking works. just accept it, man. free ? 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"time" magazine. herman cain, flash in the pan or serious candidate. are you for real? >> i am for real. this is herman cain. they will know that i am in this to win it. i am not in this to try to raise my profile or get a tv show. i wasn't at that point in my life. >> and again, just a quick reminder. erib's show out front is on at 7:00 eastern. stay tuned for the herman cain interview. as promised, i want to go back to deb who is live in connecticut where she has just broken the news here. that this jury has now returned with a verdict in the case of this second defendant in this home invague. joshua komisarjevsky. how far away are we from getting that verdict read? >> reporter: right now, the judge is talking to the jury. usually everything over a couple of rules. and kind of takes a poll of the jurors. he also thanked them for their service, of course. they've been on this case for many, many weeks now. it took them a little more than eight hours over the course of two day to reach a verdict. there are 17 counts. six are capital felonies. that means that in fact, the jury would have had to find that komisarjevsky intended to cause the death. jennifer petit and her two children. the husband, sole survivor. he's in the court. we're waiting for more information. there was a serve of speckation because -- >> i have to interrupt you. i have to interrupt you because we're getting news via twitter from helen. she has been covering this trial very extensively and she is reporting via twitter, guys, from guys can we, from inside the courtroom, count one, guilty with regard to the murder of jennifer hawk petit and count one -- have we heard about the other daughter? not yet. glo ahead, deb. >> we're waiting on the -- that is count one and two. those are counts one and two. that he aided steven hayes in the murder of the mother. also, the murder of the old er daughter hooerks guilty of that. she died of smoke inhalation. she was tied to her bed and the defense argued well, had she simply broken free, then perhaps she could have helped the family. that was their argument. we're waiting for count three. it's not until counts four and five we get to the capital felonies, helen's been doing a good job tweeting of this. she covered the first trial extensively as well. >> i'm told three, guilty. >> okay. >> we're just doing this on the fly there. >> 11-year-old daughter who it seems that komisarjevsky had some sexual fixation with. he was talking about her as if they had been friends for ever, talked about how went into her room, had some kind of pillow case on her head so he wouldn't be able to identify her. so bizarre in terms of how he was describing her in his con fes. we are expecting some press conferences afterwards. >> i'm going to give you a second. let us know with regard to the counts four and five. i'm going to bring in sunny hostin. deb, you can do some info gathering yourself and in real surprise thus far, correct? >> no, this was expected. i've always said that the real issue here is whether or not he will get the death penalty. h edit did take this jury a bit longer than the hayes case. they found him guilty of 16 out of the 17 counts. they found him not guilty of the arson. what's interesting is that they came back in under five hours. this jury took a little over eight hours, so that is fascinating to me. >> why is that? >> item wondering what the hang up is. is it the arson issue? steven hayes allegedly poured the gasoline and there's a question as to who struck the match. that is what the jury in the hayes case really struggled with. a very different defense team for komisarjevsky. a very aggressive defense team. and we heard a lot during this trial about josh wab wa komisarjevsky -- >> let me jump in. forgive me. i want to get back and get the news from deb as we have results for counts four and five. >> counts four and five, that komisarjevsky intend intentionally caused the deaths of two or more people. he is guilty of that capital felony, that means he could face the death penalty. also guilty of count five, guilty on count six. looks right now that all these counts, 17 of them right now, all guilty so far as we keep track of this. >> so, you're saying you have all 17? >> count seven is also guilty. still coming in. count six, kidnapping of dr. william petit. guilty. count seven, jennifer hawk petit, he's been found guilty. waiting for eight and nine, the kidnaps of the daughters. he broke into the home and held these folks hostages for some seven hours, torturing them effectively while he tried convincing them all they wanted was money and that wasn't the case at all it appears. waiting to hear on nine and tep. but the jury making their way reading each of these. >> okay, i'm going to let you keep reading your e-mail on your blackberry. sunny hostin, thank you so much. a quick break and continue this conversation as we're watching and waiting for all 17 counts to come down. also, minutes from now, south korea's president will address a joint meeting of congress. this is a big deal. especially after it comes one day after lawmakers sign on a new trade deal. we could be looking at a big turning point for unemployment in america. john park is our go to guy in america. he is independent standing by live in south korea, next. 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