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Coming into texas across the border with mexico. Every single day huge numbers of children. Its like nothing they have ever seen before. Youll see it tonight. We begin in las vegas where the husband and wife pair of killers thought they were starting a revolution. What they did was kill two Police Officers and one civilian before barricading themselves inside a local walmart. They were captured by store security monitors. The video made public today. Youre looking at the video of them shooting at each. Reporter final moments in the shootout between killers and police. Officers thought the wife raising and pointing the gun at her husband fired the shot that killed him seen here at the top, but forensic and autopsy results show police had had by now already fired what would be the fatal bullet. Both are wounded and bleeding. Hes not down. Reporter were stopping the video as the wife turns the gun on herself. The female just shot herself in the head. The reason youre not seeing the video prior to this or subsequent to this is because it is very graphic. Reporter investigators released this video saying it gives a window into the brutality of the killers. Minutes earlier they murdered a police officer. And a nearby pizza shot, the couple ambushed two officers on their bodies placing a swastika and placing them with the flag used by antigovernment groups. The grief, palpable among officers pausing on bended knee at the growing memorial outside the pizza shop. Many neighbors knew the fallen men. Some like Angela Austin saw the officers walking the neighborhood constantly. When i first found this out, i was really upset. I feel my deepest sympathy goes out to their families. Reporter officer allen beck, age 41, leaves behind a wife and three young children. Officer egor saldo, a new baby and a wife. We are ginned now by the reporter from las vegas. Police went to the couples apartment just four months ago. Reporter youre right. What they did was something that was sparked by a phone call by the male suspect to indiana. He called saying allegedly that he would shoot anyone who tried to take his license from him, a license that was suspended. So that raised a red flag here in las vegas. Highly trained officers from the Counterterrorism Division went to see him, three of them. And they say that in that contact, he appeared normal and e he was not an eminent threat. Thank you very much, appreciate the update. Joseph wilcox was at the walmart, there with a longtime friend. They saw people fleeing. Mr. Wilcox had a chance to do the same. He could have escaped, but he chose to stay and confront the danger. He had a concealed weapon. The kind of man he was with his mother debra wilcox and his sister. Im so sorry for your loss and i appreciate you taking the time to be here. Tell me about your son. What was he like . He was your average, normal kid. I can call him a kid, i keep forgetting he was a 31yearold grown man. He liked going to the movies, he liked to go fourwheeling with his sister. He loved helping people, which is what got him into this. He helped his grandparents all the time. Just a good kid. C. J. , what do you want people to know about your brother . Um, he was a protector. I mean, he was one of the people i trusted most. I spent most of my life around him really. We used to go to the movies and geek out all the time over marvel movies and he used to show me trailers of movies coming out and he would say get that or quick that. He was just a great guy. I loved his sense of humor. I loved going on late night drives with him. He was a good guy. I know as you know, hes being hail ed a hero. Was that the type of guy r for someone to go out of his way . Yes, yes, i was telling someone else earlier today he went to the store one night to pick up a soda or something, i dont know, and he walked out and i dont know if they were homeless, i dont know who it was, but someone asked if he had any money. He had 12 or 14 in his account, got a 10 and handed it to the guy. When he got home and it was late because his hours of sleeping and being awake were messed up, walked in, went and got a soda, there was a homeless so i gave him some money. How much . 10. You only had 14 in your account. I gave him 10. And he just continued on to his room. It didnt matter. The guy was homeless. He needed something and he had a home. So just didnt matter to him. Just want everybody to know that he was my hero. I wish he was here today and i want to thank everybody out there for everything they are saying and doing for him because he deserves that. Thank you all. A friend who was with him believes that because of what your son did it probably stopped the shooters from maybe going after other people. Ive been told that by several people. I believe that too. I truly believe he got their attention. The woman that shot him, their attention would have been on something else. Ive been told that by many people that because of him, he stopped a lot of other people from dying. Im grateful for that, i am. He did a heroic thing, but i just wish i could bring him back home. C. J. , if you cant answer, have the police told you exactly what happened or have they not really figured it all out . I think we have gotten a few phone calls from the police, but so far, i just get online and read stuff and probably shouldnt, but theres several different stories that she just came up behind him and shot him when he wasnt looking. I dont know what to believe. Debbi, did you know your son carry carried a concealed weapon with him . Yeah. He had the gun for quite awhile. He went and got his ccw yes, most of the time he had his gun on him. Most of the time. It got to the point sometimes he walked out the door he just didnt have it. It used to be he carried it on him all the times. But 10 out of 11 times he carried it and the other he didnt. This date why he took it, i u dont know. He was supposed to be going to returning a modem, coming back and going swimming. Its an extraordinary thing that he did. It sounds like somebody who reached out to other people throughout his life. Debbi and c. J. , im so sorry for your loss. I appreciate you talking with us. Thank you. I wish you both peace in the days ahead. Thank you. Im wishing that it too. I just dont know where im going to find it. Theres a lot of people thinking about you and praying for you and thinking about him as well. Thank you so much. Thank you. Family mourning. A family just outside of portland, oregon, has the same thing ahead of them. Closure is a word that is a tv word. It doesnt really exist for this kind of death with the senseless killing. Amelia hoffman was just 14 years old when a 15yearold classmate shot and killed him yesterday morning. He was a soccer star and much more. Warmhearted, smart and funny. Some of the hardest days of my life and he would make me smile. Last night at the Seattle Mariners game, the field was silent as the team, the fans paid tribute and to paul lee who was killed by a gunman at Seattle Pacific just a few days earlier. Tonight we honor them both as well. In portland, people are recognizing a teacher and coach who was shot and wounded by the gunman but managed to make it to the main office and sound the alarm which saved vital minutes. Police say the killer was armed with an a. R. 15 rifle. He brought the weapons from home. He managed to get them. This could have been so much worse if that teacher hadnt done what he did. A lot more happening tonight. Set your dvr to watch 360 whenever you want. David brat managed to unseat eric cantor. Politics just got a lot more interesting. And later the new flood of Legal Immigration that may have factored into the race, but its important for another reason. All the unaccompanied children who have been showing up on the border, crossing over every single day. What becomes of them, the answer so far, ill tell you that ahead. Im mom at the playground and the dog park. The kids get trail mix, and you get a delicious milos kitchen chicken meatball. I wish you liked my cooking that much. Milos kitchen. Made in the usa with chicken or beef as the number one ingredient. The best treats come from the kitchen. I got lots of advice, but i needed information i could trust. Unitedhealthcares innovative, Simple Program helps moms stay on track with their doctors to get the right care and guidance. anncr vo thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. You stand behind what you say. Theres a saying around here, around here you dont make excuses. You make commitments. And when you cant live up to them, you own up, and make it right. Some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where its needed most. But i know youll still find it when you know where to look. After shocks tonight, a political earthquake that toppled eric cantor. He was primaried last night by a relative unknown named david brat. He himself was surprised at winning that he wouldnt even believe he won until he saw the results. He had a bit of a rough introduction to the National Stage. He did an interview and when asked if he supported minimum wage, i dont have a well crafted response on that one. That was the last interview he gave today. Eric cantor had been the second most powerful republican in the house thanked his staff and colleagues and announced hooegs giving up his leadership position. Now while i intend to serve out my term as a member in congress, effective july 31st i will be stepping down as majority leader. It is with great humility that i do so knowing the tremendous honor it has been to hold this position. Which leaves a political vacuum. It sends a message that the tea party could speak volumes about who prevails in november. Reporter losing in an upset and a landslide against an unknown from your own party must be hard to wrap your mind around when youre House Majority leader. Did you look in the mirror last night and said how did i let this happen . No, because i really do believe we did everything we could and i just came up short and the voters elected another candidate. Reporter the question is how did eric cantor come up so short . This it rally earlier this month for cantors opponent is part of o the answer. Instead of spending five taliban mvps over there, he could have traded one eric cantor. Reporter a conservative radio host made defeating cantor a personal mission and other influential voices joined in the grass roots hitting cantor for his sport for legal status for illegal immigrant children. If eric cantor gets in and is reelected, we are going to have amnesty. Do you believe that . I dont believe it. I know its a fact. An unknown economics professor and firsttime politician with a staff of just two helped his own cause the Old Fashioned way, retail politics. Eric cantor is trying to buy this election with Corporate Cash from los angeles and new yo york. Hes acting as a conservative in public while working behind the scenes to deliver open borders r for large corporations. Reporter cantor did have massive amounts of campaign cash, 5 million compared to brats 200,000. But money doesnt always buy enthusia enthusiasm, especially the way cantor spent his money. 168,000 at high end steak houses. And there were signs of trouble brewing for cantor. When i sit here and listen to mr. Brat speak, i hear the inaccuracies. My family is here. [ booing ] we are about a country of free speech. Reporter this was cantor one month ago, heckled at a local party convention. Cantor and his team did take notice more aggressively going after brat. Brat is running as a republican. Reporter in hindsight many sources tell cnn that backfired, elevating brat and firing up his supporters. In fact, brat may have been helped most by cantor himself, who as House Majority leader was seen more on a National Stage than in his virginia district. Even on election day, where was cantor . He was in the capital lunching with congressman rodney davis. Were you surprised he was here on primary wayday . I was not surprised. He was making sure he was doing the job we elected him to do and thats the same eric cantor that sacrificed so much for everyone else and unfortunately he sacrificed time at home. Dana joins us now from capitol hill. You asked him that day whether e he spent too much time at the capital and not enough at home. He said he went home every week and did tend to his constituents back home. Maybe a part of the problem the people might not realize is that only 12 of the electorate voted in this primary. Clearly those people, the majority, didnt want eric cantor back. Thank you very much. It bares what happened has precedence. Lets talk about it with newt gingrich, former House Speaker and president ial candidate. Also political commentator anna navarro. And chief National Correspondent john king. Mr. Speaker, we heard from eric cantor. He said he didnt ignore his district. He always put his district first. What do you make of that explanation . The guy is in shock. His pollster told him he was going to win by 34 points. He goes into Election Night totally confident. He outspent his opponent 25 to 1. His campaign spent as much money on steak houses as his opponents entire campaign and he loses by a decisive margin. He did do the right thing stepping down, but youre looking at a person in a state of sock. You cant blame him. He would like to believe everything he said. Clearly the people didnt think they had his attention and sent a signal they wanted somebody who would be more aggressive and fight more than they thought he was fighting. John king as you looked at the numbers, is there more clarity at this point . Did he pay enough attention to his district . Was it the ads backfiring . What was it . There are people who think his tv ads did elevate the name identification of his opponent. Number two, if he turped out as many votes as he did two years ago, he would be the winner. His people saw no motivation to turn out and the people who didnt want him in office did see motivation. To the point he thought he was connected to his district, even if he was going home a lot, he clearly wasnt listening because he was perceived by voters back home as spending too much time with lobbyists, thinking about being speaker and having higher ambition and too much time protecting wall street and not worrying about the district. If he were going home, he must not have been listening or he would have pick ed it up sooner. What about Immigration Reform . I think immigration did play a role, but its not the way that the media is reading it. I dont think its his openness to immigration. People on the immigration advocacy side of the issue are already frustrated with him and have fought him to be an obstacle and not a great leader on the issue. So you are really mishandling an issue when you manage to irritate and get both sides mad at you. Thats whats happened with eric cantor and immigration. If you take a look at what Lindsey Graham did in south carolina. Lindsey graham was the coauthor in the senate, yet he went to south carolina, he explained it to his constituency. He sold it. He explained why he was backing it. He never ran from his record. He ran on his record. You cannot say the same thing about eric cantor. So i do think immigration played a role, but not because he was open to it, but because people didnt understand where he stood where he stood. You mentioned it last night, whatever your position you have to go back to your district and explain it to people there. Yeah, and you cant just go home and lecture them. You have to have a genuine conversation. I do think that the results of the last week were 700 children crossed the american border, everything the president said about the border is not true. And i do think for a lot of people who are conservative, this is a big issue of watching the american border be totally pourous and watching thousands and thousands of people continue to pour into the u. S. I wouldnt underestimate how big a deal Border Security is and how much harder that makes for those of us who do believe you have to have Immigration Reform that to even start the conversation. Is this a sign the Republican Party is moving rightward if eric cantor is not conservative enough for the Republican Party in at least in his day . I dont think it was an issue about whether he was conservative enough or not. I really think its come down to eric cantor. It wasnt the tea party that toppled eric cantor. It wasnt immigration that toppled eric cantor. It was eric cantor being out of touch with his district. He may have thought he had the correct balance, but if he voters dont feel that way, hes got a real big problem on his hands. John king, what does this mean for republicans in the next couple weeks . Eric cantor lost more than mr. Brat won this race. You will had get a Republican Leadership that moves more to the right. We dont know who the majority leader would be. They schedule d the election relatively quickly. Thats the establishment trying to help. But the tea party is saying they dont want anybody in the existing leadership to get the majority leader. The speaker knows how this thing plays out. It gets unpredictable. You have about three or four running in the end and this will change america. This will change america for the next several months and potentially for a generation because some new face is likely to emerge in the Republican Party. The next speaker of the house could emerge from the election and the message at the moment is dont be nice to president obama. Dont be nice to wall street. Dont do anything big in washington. Perhaps thats an overread, but thats what republicans think today. Thank you very much to all of you. No matter what you think about ilLegal Immigration, theres a surge of children coming across the border traveling on their own. The question is what happens to them once they get here . 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Another child saying that the journey was frightening. Unaccompanied children isnt new. Whats different now though is that the numbers have dramatically increased and almost all of them are coming not from mexico, but honduras and el savl doer. They know were going to give them paperwork and they will be set free into the United States. Reporter but its a bit more complicated. Each childs family background is investigated. So whats being done is the hundreds and hundreds of children who have a arrived are being transported to the Border Patrol station in arizona where they are temporarily living. This picture from a local raid choe station shows children sleeping with thermal blankets and them being transported to military facilities in california, texas and oklahoma while their family ties get examined. Senior Administration Officials say they are working as efficiently as possible, but what happens when they find out a child has no family in the United States . At this point, its not clear. Officially removal proceedings are initiated for all of the children. But when minors come from countries not continuous to the United States, the law does not allow expedited returns. Hundreds turn themselves in daily. Reporter also arriving is mothers and small children. Ruth gonzales is from guatemala. She left her country on her daught daughters birthday arriving 11 days later in arizona. She gave her life savings to make the journey. How much money did you pay . 6,000. Mothers with their children are treated different than unaccompanied children. Many other mothers who hiked for days are dropped off by Border Patrol at the tucson, arizona, greyhound station and surprisingly are told they can ravel to their family members and stay in the u. S. For now provided they register after they arrive where their families are. These mothers dont speak english and now they are navigated bus trips to various points of the u. S. With no idea what direction they are traveling and how farther traveling in a nation thats far larger than many of them knew. Ruth is going to washington, d. C. To be with her brother. She left her parents behind. She says her baby has been vomiting. Hard to smile . Reporter its very much difficult to smile and shes very sad. So why has she done this . All the immigrants we talked to say the same thing. They are scared to stay in their home countries. A lot of violence and ruth says she doesnt want her daughter growing up with the violence. The u. S. Government doesnt give them any necessities when they are dropped off. Cha Charity Groups are there to offer that assistance. Rooult declared shes happy to be here. And then the Greyhound Bus arrives. The first stop will be el pa so and two more stops. Then they will be in washington. Living with her brother in limbo in america. So we actually just got new pictures from the Border Patrol facility. You see kids sleeping on the floor. Any indication this influx is going to slow down . No indication whatsoever. Theres momentum that is feeding upon itself. Theres a perception in Central America that for children and mothers with children it will be easier to stay in this country and that perception is accurate. So what happens over the last couple week when is they hear that children have gotten to the country safely away from the violence, they send other children to come here. We do anticipate this wall will see a lot of people going around it, over it, through it, tonight, tomorrow and for an unknown number of days to come. Theres a new influx, a huge number. This is a new perception that kind of they believe that something has changed or this administration is somehow made it a lot easier for children to stay here, correct . I think its a perfect storm. You have a dramatic uptick in violence in those three nations. A lot of it is attributed to Gang Violence going on. So parents say we have to the get our kids out of here. Its easier for kids to stay in the country. We have seen this before. In 1994, 20 years ago, the cuban rafters, coming in the hundreds. They ended up staying in guantanamo before it was guantanamo and you had terrorists there, you had innocent cubans trying for a better life here. You had a situation where the government didnt know what to do with them. You could have a situation where you dont have enough room for all the children coming to the country. The numbers are huge. Appreciate it, thanks. Iraq out of control, violence took over major city. The fighting forcing hundreds of thousands of people from their homes. Even some Security Forces were just thrown down their weapons and taking off their uniforms and trying to get out. Plus new information about when Sergeant Bowe bergdahl could be heading back to the United States. Theres a saying around here, you stand behind what you say. Around here you dont make excuses. You make commitments. And when you cant live up to them, you own up, and make it right. Some people think the kind of accountability that thrives on so many streets in this country has gone missing in the places where its needed most. But i know youll still find it when you know where to look. I got more advice than i knew what to do with. What i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. Luckily, unitedhealthcare has a Simple Program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidancebefore and after the baby is born. Simple is good right now. anncr vo innovations that work for you. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. Theres breaking news on iraq. Stunning news. The willingness of the government to accept new american air strikes. They are battling for a day after taking over. Half a Million People have fled the fighting, which is also reporting civilian casualties with hospitals being rendered. Jim sciutto has the report. Reporter this is iraq 11 years after the u. S. Invasion, 3 years after the u. S. Withdrawal and now in a state of crisis. After capturing iraqs second largest city, militants are boldly pushing on. Taking over saddam husseins hometown, the oil refining town and nearing the capital of baghdad. Iraqi Security Forces following years of training and billions of dollars of weaponry from the u. S. Have melted away leaving check points unmanned and stripping themselves of their uniforms. Americans claim militant websites now in the hands of al qaedatied terrorists. Today iraqs foreign minister said his countrys survival is at stake. I hope this incident really will lead all iraqi leaders to come together to face this city as mortal threat to the country. Reporter u. S. Officials say there are early signs of kurds coming together to respond to the attacks and today the National Security adviser said the u. S. Will provide support under his Framework Agreement with iraq. Jim joins us now. The speed at which these insurgent groups, these sunni groups, the jihadists have moved through northern iraq, its stunning. Could baghdad itself fall . They are going to try to prevent that, but they had their own sizable security force, that melted away. And now you have two other major cities falling as well. I am told that the iraqis have signalled a willingness of the u. S. To conduct air strikes. They are considering a number of kinetic options. Air strikes bring civilian casualties and remember what happened when air strikes were under consideration in syria, they did not proceed with that. But we know this is a signal of how serious and how concerned the iraqis are they would signal a willingness to that kind of reaction to the u. S. A lot of this has to fall at the feet of the Prime Minister of the leader there. He could have reached out to other groups. He really hasnt done that. No question. This is a tremendous political failure in iraq. The shiite leader, hes not done a good job of bringing in the sunnis, the kurds into a government sharing the oil revenue. Thats a failure. Because of that its made it difficult to build this National Army that is truly national that can respond to a crisis like this. Jim sciutto, unbelievable developments. Other stories were following, Susan Hendricks has the latest. Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl could be transferred to the United States very soon. Journal entries that he wrote before his capture by the taliban have been quoted in the washington post. In the entries, he makes many references to dreams of walking away to china into the mountains, into the artist painted world. The journals were sent to a friend who gave them to the post because shes concern gd about bergdahl being portrayed as a deserter. And chug hagel was on capitol hill defending the deal that freed bergdahl. America does not leave its soldiers behind. We made the right decision. And we did it for the right reasons. To bring home one of our own people. Also today the fbi is joining the investigation into the veter Veterans Affairs department over long and sometimes fatal wait times. The Senate Passing a bill aimed at sweeping changes to the v. A. Among them creating new 26 medical facilities and letting vets go to private doctors. And shelly steriling is asked a court to uphold a deal to sell the team. A lawyer says there could be a hearing in a week or two. Thanks very much. Just ahead, why the texas Republican Party has endorsed a controversial socalled treatment known as repairtive therapy to supposedly turn gay people straight. Well talk to a lawmaker who supports it. Touch down. Every morning. Ten times not just. Now and then. Once more on the rise. 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[ barks ] story tonight from the iper section of politics. Republicans endorsed a therapy to turn gay people straight. Theres no Scientific Evidence it works and plenty of reason to believe its harmful for minors. New jersey and california have banned it. The texas gop has gone in the opposite direction adding language supporting it to their platform. A state representative voted for that change. I spoke to him earlier. Representative hughes, why do you think it was necessary advocating repairtive therapy . Why is that on the platform . The language is in the platform because we want to make sure people have rights. We heard from people that wanted access to that kind of counselling, that kind of therapy so we believe in free speech and free choice. Its important if people want that kind of help, they can get it. Its not being forced on anyone, but for folks who want it, its available. But. Was that even a question . In new jersey and california, its still allowed. I know a lot of people in texas have been indicating that its been banned, but you know thats not true. I have learned that there were concerns from california and new jersey and maybe other states that it would be limited or taken away in some cases. So the platform begins at the precinct level. A neighbor had been through this therapy and helpful to him and concerned it might be taken away. He approached her and she took the process to the county and state level and thats how it became part of the platform. This is about giving people choices. If they want this, it should be available to them. Even if a vast majority of medical professionals say this form of counselling or therapy is actually can be harmful to kids . Theres a task force in the American Psychological association that said that efforts to change Sexual Orientation or unlikely be successful but involve a risk of harm. The Psychiatric Association says the same thing. Potential risks of depression, anxiety, do you think kids should be subjected to that based on what their parents want . From what i have read, theres medical literature on both sides of the issue. Theres really not. Its not accurate to say that doctors are evenly divided. Im the American Academy of pediatrics, american counselling association, Psychiatric Association, psychological association, American School counselors association, National Association of school psychologists, National Association of social workers, they represent half a million Mental Health professionals. They all say this is not a mental disorder or something that needs to be cured. There are members of those groups who feel differently. Some testified before the committee, some testified in other places. People testified before the Platform Committee at our convention both pro and con. Thats not true though. Thats actually not true. I know people testified for it from the platform, but according to a number of gay groups there who werent allowed to have booths where the platform was, they werent allowed to argue against it because of a parliamentary procedure. Debate was closed before they had a chance to voice their opposition. Youre aware of that, right . I think were conflating the process. In the Platform Committee, there was testimony on the issue. I wasnt there. But let me be clear. When the platform came to the floor, there were a number of amendments to be offered. I had some on physical matters and other matters. Those did not get debated because folks wanted to close debate and go on. There were plenty of discussion on both sides of this issue. I want to play a clip of an interview i did with a man named alan chambers. They were the most well known socalled exgay group. I want to play you what he said. I believe that that causes all sorts of trauma. I know that there are people who have taken their life because they felt so ashamed of who they are. Felt like god couldnt love them as they are and thats something that will haunt me until the day i die. Do you now believe that its possible to change your Sexual Orientation . No, i dont. This guy ran the biggest exgay group for years and years. Does that concern you that your party is now backing a form of therapy which basically every Major Medical Organization Says doesnt work, can be harmful and which many of the people who have been through it say it doesnt work and its bad for kids. I have heard of him and i dont know a lot of details about the situation, but we heard testimony and also read reports from other expert who is say its helpful for some of their patients. I want to take exception to something he said. No one is saying that god doesnt love people as they are. Theres nothing in the platform about that. No one is trying to take that position. Every one of us makes mistakes, makes decisions were not proud of us. God loves each one of us and offers us a way to deal with sin and bad choices. I disagree with god not loving people. The fact that you view being gay or characterize it as a mistake or something that should be changed really kind of maybe says more about your position than what your words actually say. I was speaking about every one of us, whatever choices we make. Over the years, this Party Platform has actually had a lot of language thats antigay. Your platform said homosexuality te tears at the fabric of society. Thats a platform i assume you supported, correct . As e we discussed, there was a debate on these issues at the convention. Some wanted stronger language. In the past, that language was in there so you supported that . You believe that homosexuality tears at the fabric of society . I have voted for that platform in the past. I believe that god has created us to work in a certain way. 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