0 all together. the sanctions are hurting medical care from our small experience, it seems they have a point. as we reported last week, sanctions aren't having the idea impact in iran and they don't seem to be changing people's minds about what their country should or shouldn't do. thanks for watching, ac 360 starts now. erin, thanks, good evening. edward snowden resurfaces online, answering allegations that he's spying for china. talks about why he thinks he'll never get a fair trial in the u.s. there may not be honor among thieves, but what about alleged killers. what made a former hit man turn on his former associate james whitey bolger and what happened during their courtroom confrontation today. we begin tonight, keeping them honest, with the challenge that remains unanswered. last week, after profiling three so called cancer charities that seem only to care about their profits, i changed the people who run them to come on the program or talk to drew griffin. let them explain, i said, facts uncovered by drew. facts that show these so called charities to be abusing and squandering your hard earned donations, like none we've ever seen before. tonight not one of these three have taken us up on the challenge. two of the three, though, have spoken out elsewhere, but the things they're saying raise even more questions. before we go to drew given who has the latest information on that, i want to show you his original report so you can reacquaint yourself with all the players in this, and what they've been doing with the money that donors believed was actually going to help cancer victims. >> drive down these country roads outside knoxville, tennessee, and into this small industrial park. and you'll find the headquarters of a family conglomerate of cancer charities that return lavish salaries to their owners, but according to their own tax records, donate very little to dying cancer patients. and the last thing the people running this charity want to do is answer questions. >> don't turn your camera on me, okay? >> across the country in mesa, arizona, another outpost of the conglomerate. it's called the breast cancer society, it's ceo and executive director, the man escaping in the truck, james reynolds, jr. >> excuse me, sir, mr. reynolds, right here, buddy. mr. reynolds? hi. where are you going? >> back in knoxville, there's another cancer charity that children's cancer fund of america. and this one run by yet another member of the family. rose perkins. >> is rose perkins in. >> she's not available and she's not doing interviews. >> why wouldn't she do us any interviews. she's running a charity for kids with cancer. it seems like a good idea. >> i've been told to tell you she's not doing interviews. >> can you tell us what you do, any positive things you do with the many you collect. >> you can send your questions to her e-mail and we'll answer it. >> if you were asking us for money, what would you say you did with your money? >> we help children with cancer. >> how do you do that? >> what do you mean how do we do that? >> we help children with cancer. >> how, why? >> we provide them financial assistance. >> do you have any idea how many. >> if you have any other questions, please send them to her e-mail. >> my question -- >> rose perkins did e-mail us and tell us her charity has a clear conscience, we feel we're making a good difference in people's lives. also told us an interview is not something we can consider. that may be because of the questions we'd like to ask her and the other members of her extended family who are essentially making a living on your donations. rose perkins the ceo of the children's cancer fund is paid $227,442 a year. her ex-husband james reynolds senior is president and ceo of cancer funds of america. he gets paid 236,8 # $15. and james reynolds, jr., president and ceo of the breast cancer society has a salary of $261,609. it's money that comes from donors like you who in 2011 sent these three charities $26 million in cash. how much of those donations went to helping cancer patients? according to the charities own tax records, about 2% in cash. example, the cancer fund of america raised $6 million through its fund-raising campaign in 2011. and gave away just 14,940 in cash. but that is not what you would hear from the telemarketers hired by the cancer fund of america run by james reynolds, senior. >> how much of my $10 will go -- who is this too? >> cancer fund of america support services. 100% of the donation goes into a fund where we perfect medical supplies. we do hospice care for the terminally ill. and we supply medical supplies all over the united states. >> how much of my $10 will go -- >> every sent will go toward the charity itself. i'm calling directly from the charity. >> oh, well that's great then. >> according to the iowa attorney general's office, which gave us these recordings, those phone called statements are one great big lie. the callers were telemarketers, being paid to make the call. the state of iowa fined the telemarketing company $35,000 for making false representations. as for donations to other charities. the cancer fund of america claimed on its 2011 tax filings, it sent $761,000 in so-called gifts in kind. not actually cash, to churches, some hospitals and other programs around the country. when we called or e-mailed those other charities to check, many of them said they did get something. things like these supplies. >> but several of the groups told us, they never heard of the cancer fund of america or don't remember getting a thing. the cancer fund also takes creditor serving as a middleman. brokering transfer of another $16 million worth of gifts in kind to individuals and other charities. many of them overseas, those contributions double up ats donations and revenue on the same tax forms. back at the corporate office, even the chief financial officer who has a salary of $121,000 couldn't explain what was happening. >> we just have all these -- never heard of you. yolonda barco institute. >> the him is james reynolds senior, the founder who finally told us in an e-mail his board thought it unwise to talk to cnn. even though in a different e-mail, he called the news of phantom donations most disturbing. as for his son, james reynolds, jr., and his charity in arizona. >> how are you? >> the camera needs to stay outside. >> okay, can he stay there? >> mr. reynolds here? >> i'm sorry, he's not in right now. >> the chief financial officer sent us e-mails telling us the breast cancer society's guiding mission is to provide relief to those who suffer from breast cancer. we've made a difference in the lives of tens of thousands of men and women. when our camera found james reynolds, jr. he made sure we got the message with a single finger salute. >> this guy's running a charity, flipping you the bird. james reynolds, jr., still isn't talking to us. the breast cancer society charity he runs, they're responding to your report. and they're pretty harshly accusing the reporting as grossly ignorant at best and we plan to hold them accountable. what are they saying we got grossly inadequate? >> the headline of the charity's website is what is the truth about the breast cancer society that you won't hear from cnn's anderson cooper's show, they claim 75%, not 2% of their donations go to charity. as we reported, it's just not so, the breast cancer society took in $13 million in 2011, it gave away according to its own tax filings, just 2.4% of that money to cancer patients for families. we do know where $261,000 went, and that is into the pocket of the guy giving us the finger, james reynolds, jr. that's his salary. as for you and your show, anderson, this is what the breast cancer society thinks of the report we believe it was maly,ly fabricated to support a very crooked and slanderous agenda that anderson cooper's show should be ashamed of. there you go, anderson. >> what's the agenda, did they say in. >> no, they did not say. other than, we want to boost ratings with reports like this. >> this guy's father is also involved in a questionable charity, the cancer fund of america. is he talking? >> yes, anderson, but again, not to us. james reynolds senior isn't disputing the fact that 2% of the money raised goes to cancer patients. 80%, he says admits really goes to fund-raisers, along with his $237,000 salary. get this, he granted an interview to a local affiliate in knoxville, tennessee, a cnn affiliate. where he said the mission of his charities is not to give financial assistance, but to give gifts that make cancer patients and their families feel good. they may be donated gifts, he's regifting. he thinks giving away adult diapers, fans and even treats is what the true purpose of his charity is. listen to this. >> products that even the children in the family would like pies and candies. each little candy in there was like 7-up. i've never seen them on the market. >> millions of dollars to give away treats. just as a reminder, reynolds, senior and his charity, the charity run by his son and the charity run by james reynold's senior's ex-wife, three of the 50 worst charities in america, identified by our reporting partners, the ta pa bay times and the center for investigative reporting. >> everyone loves moon pies. and he seems like a charming man. he's admitting 80% of the money that they raise goes to fund-raising -- to try to rope in more people to get more money. and i don't think the people are donating money to the charity think it's about giving adult diapers and moon pies to kids with cancer. did they give you a reason for not just sitting down and answering our questions, instead of running from our cameras and giving you the finger? >> the closest we got was a statement from the breast cancer society which claimed that cnn will not share editorial privilege and as such we can't responsibly engage in an interview. >> i don't even know what that means? >> i don't either. they go on to say we would butcher and rearrange to meet cnn's agenda of tabloid like deception and slander to bump ratings. instead of all that he gives us the finger. >> this blows my mind. these are people who are asking for money from good people, from americans, all across the country and you would think anybody who runs a charity would be willing to give an interview any time to talk about what they're doing, show you their books, and what's also amazing to me is how this is all a family affair. i mean, you have the dad, the son, the ex-wife, the current wife. and it doesn't seem like dad and the son really got together and had a phone conversation, because son is saying, it's not 2%, dad's not arguing with the fact that it's 2%, he said, in fact, 80% were given away to fund-rais fund-raisers, they need to get their stories together it seems like, and we'll do a live interview with them, no editing at all. i'll be happy to do that, i know drew, you would be happy to do that as well. if the challenge is legit, they should show up or eat some more moon pies or something, i don't know. it's infuriating. it's unbelievable, because people are donating their hard earned money thinking they're helping people and these folks are living high off the moon pies. thanks very much. follow me on dwiter right now. let's talk about it right there. what the nsa's leaker is saying now about allegations applying for china. i'll talk with glenn greenwald. later, marty bolger coming face to face with his alleged former hit man. an amazing confrontation in court. a confessed killer who's gunning in court for bolger. 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