chelsea's education, you know, it was not easy. >> she said she was in debt, dead broke when she and bill clinton left the white house in january, what, 2001. >> i once made a remark that they were homeless and, in fact, they were. i mean they really didn't have any money. i don't think that making money after you've been in public office is anything new. and i don't think -- >> in the eight years he was president, he was making $400,000 a year as president of the united states, which to most americans sounds like money. >> yeah, well, i think that they -- look it, i think ronald regular be weagan went off and a couple of million dollars on a speech right after he got out of office. he went to japan and made a huge amount of money. i don't think that's anything new. i think why shouldn't they -- we do live in a capitalistic country. >> isn't anything wrong with making money. certainly bill clinton has made a lot money speaking in other ways since he left the white house. speaking of first ladies, listen