to just continue to live in belarus and continue to get money from russian banks? i mean it's hard to imagine prigozhin getting -- vladimir putin letting prigozhin get away with this. >> but on the other hand, it's also hard to imagine putin letting prigozhin go at all in a way because he's been so valuable in africa and syria, his mercenary forces there have been hugely valuable. can putin afford to do without them? can he afford to do without the motivation the wagner fighters need on the front lines in ukraine? what we do -- look, here's a picture of putin a couple years ago, a guy at the center of power, able to control all the competing interests of the different oligarchs. it's a different picture right now. he failed in his initial invasion in ukraine. he was the one going to continue to bring stability to russia. yet what he's actually done is bring in essence almost a coup, not quite but almost an insurrection, a treason onto the streets with thousands of heavily armed fighters.
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