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merits. >> let me ask you about marbury versus madison and what is your interpretation of the progeny or the case, itself? >> so, our interpretation is more in line of judge pan and yours, in that it does not erect an unreviewable power of the presidency and sort of the prime example of that is the steel seizure case, the youngstown case, and that is president truman closing steel mills, and the court coming in to review that. we see it all of the way through to the present, and so it is hard to see any world in which the court just says, you know, we can't intervene here. we do see the judge henderson's distinction between ministerial a acts and the discretionary call, because it is something that i

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