we're seeing right now. you come from a political family. you know this. it's never been like this. >> it depends on what period you're talking about. we've gone through so much worse but in recent history, this president has really pulled at the fabric of what holds us together in this country. he just has. he's playing to advantage in ways we haven't seen before. but, look, the rules still have to apply. i think the democrats, some of them are in a hurry right now and i don't understand why. you have to get the answers to the questions that we outlined in the closing. if you can show that this president had people from the state department working with rudy and people were working with ukraine and giving them certain expectations for how they would get meetings and friendship from the president of the united states and you had people lying to congress about why they were holding up money and people secreting the transcripts into a different directory so they couldn't be discovered easily, now you're talking about a systemic abuse of power over months that is
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