is -- what is driving that? glng we have an action reaction cycle where donald trump is appealing to white racial ceptments more openly since george wallace in 1968 and partly in response and partly in response to the changing nature of the democratic base and coalition. i think the democratic candidates are clearly talking more explicitly about the idea of systemic racism or systematic racism or institutional segregationism than any democratic candidate since really i covered national politics in '84. >> even obama and clinton. >> i think much more than obama or clinton. hillary clinton dipped her toe into those kind of arguments. when you hear the things beto o'rourke said at the last democratic debate in houston where he argued the introduction of slavery more than the declaration of independence was in essence the foundational moment in shaping american history, i mean that is kind of
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