for more on what in means. what would these tanks do for the ukrainians in the fight in the donbas region? >> it would be significant, wolf. first of all, they are equipment the ukrainian army is used to working with. secondly, baseds on the report by "new york times," these are tanks that are actually higher quality russian tanks than what the russians are using. wolf, surprisingly, i actually fired a tank from the czech republic similar to the kinds that are coming from slovakia. and they have take ten t-72 variant, which is the main russian battle tank and have upgraded it in significant ways. both their optics, their armor, and their gun system. so i think it would certainly help to do the transfer between some the nato nations that are now still using those t-72s. >> here's what i don't understand. if the u.s. and the nato allies are now about to provide the
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