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political commentator and was a campaign advise door the trump campaign in 2016. and ashley allison, the former national coalitions director for the biden-harris 2020 campaign and also a senior political commentator. great to have you both here. david, i mean i think this is a real concern that we're seeing here from these republican candidates. and also in donald trump's campaign because they've been trying to get a lot of people to come out who aren't typical caucus goers, who maybe don't turn out every four years, a lot of them in rural areas who may drive further to get to their spots. how much is this a real concern for these campaigns? >> kaitlan, i think it's a big concern, right? there's an old saying how you run a campaign. you run scared or unopposed, right? so everybody's running scared at this point especially in light of this weather situation. jessica alluded to it, you know, most of the people go to camp caucus sites which they walk in and they're kind of in a gym or school, so you're not standing in line like at a polling place

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