this is a very personal case as we all know for the former president, kristen, which in many ways goes to the heart of his own identity. talk about that. >> yeah, that's right, wolf. donald trump has had an identity and a brand that was he was a real estate tycoon, that he built a successful business in manhattan, that he could make money so he could make money for people, which is what he argued when he was running for office in 2016. this really goes to all of that. as he's said over and over again he believes they devalued his properties. and they gave him his resort in palm beach which they said was worth $18 million, and he believes it was worth far more than that. and it upsets him because he views himself as a real estate tycoon. we know he's been sitting for this trial specifically multiple times and he's been engaged. at times we were told he was