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speak about their role. they're on the phone with this guy for hours, and according the to the fbi it was high frequency in duration. it stopped from time to time. the relationship ebbed and flowed, was intense at times. what are these negotiators trying to do? >> well, they want to know what he wants, first of all. and if he wants siddiqui released, we don't know that for sure, the hostage negotiator is going to say, well, what's going to happen if we do? what will happen to her? and they'll carry this on so there's some hope in his mind so he doesn't start shooting the hostages. and they do -- they practice this so much and do it so well, and that's sort of what they devoted their careers to is talking to people on the phone -- >> it's a career, isn't it? >> they're just -- and it's the same way with the shooters, the assaulters go in. it's amazing the amount of training they go through to act quickly. because when you're firing

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