the great slow motion, all of the black and white gore, the violence of the flush bulbs going off. when he designed the movie, marty, he purposefully didn't put a clutch on the film. there's no clutch. >> hey, ray, you never went down, ray. you never got me down, ray. >> it's a boxing movie for people who don't like boxing. it's not about that. it's about this man who was based on a real person who is really at war with himself. >> come on. harder. harder. >> i didn't really understand boxing, but the character was interesting. he was just so contraire, as they say. he was just so difficult. >> what are you trying to prove? what does it prove? >> bob de niro, he is not afraid of the negative characters, he's not afraid to go to, as i say, those places. [ applause ] >> i was down to 152. in my prime.
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