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testing is being taken more seriously, masks getting out there. but also these antivirals that we talked about on your program a couple of weeks ago, there's not enough of it right now but there will be tens of millions of doses that will arrive sometime the next few months. that appears to be a very effective medication not just against this particular variant but any variant of this coronavirus. so i think, you know, we see trends heading in the right direction and there's lots of things in place to potentially buffer what may be some resurgences over the next several months. >> the biden administration is starting to discuss the new normal. dr. fauci says there's still a way to go, didn't put an exact metric on it. is there a magic number? is there some sort of metric that would be an acceptable way for us to go about our lives? >> you know, it's interesting, jake. i remember having several conversations with dr. fauci about this pre-delta variant. he threw out a number at that time that when we get below fewer than 10,000 cases per day,

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