but also conflicts of interest. both are very serious threats. you have for instance joe manchin wielding inordinate power over the president's initiatives that would affect the environment while he has massive poll interests. we also had members of congress during the pandemic trading in stocks affected by the pandemic that they knew about before the rest of us did. so mere disclosure isn't going to solve that. in fact, even if you did have people complying with the law, we'd have no way to know what kind of insider briefings they got so we would have no way to evaluate whether they were committing insider trading and i would just add the mere appearance that they are engaging in insider trading is just as bad as if they are. we have a crisis in government right now and the public can't take their word for it. >> you raise an interesting point with senator joe manchin. let me play devil's advocate
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