or sondland said and what did bill taylor said was wrong. that is not the argument. it is just they've created an if alternate reality. and rudy giuliani is away and the white house strategy carried to thenth extreme. >> and this is what jackie was alosing to. the white house has spent two months decrying this process seeking to cast it as illegitimate despite that not being the case so there was no reason to believe they would come and sit before the house judiciary committee to play ball and especially to the outset to bill's point they haven't engaged on substance because it doesn't look good for the president so they've made this a process driven argument to try to present the inquiry as politically motivated and that is the message to the base and perhaps to independents if they think that impeachment is not
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