government for the work that we're doing in relation to surveillance. we do have a close relationship with indonesian. it is in many ways our most vital relationship. >> because it's right there. >> it's there. and it's 8,000 islands, ten times the australian population enormous number of indonesian students in australia. indeed it appears to be at least one of the folk on board the aircraft was a student at an australian university. so it's quite a -- in tourism, it's intermeshed. the foreign minister herself has said in recent times she traveled on an airasia aircraft -- >> she does travel on airasia. the eu has banned all but five of indonesia's airlines. i'm wondering if there's concern
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