>> i think it's really about the death penalty. this case is about what it takes to get executed in this country. the trial has been very sensational and, look, we haven't mentioned it yet, but there was no point in pretending otherwise. there's been a lot in this trial about jodi arias's sex life with the victim in this case. there have been tapes of phone sex between them. obviously that played a big part. but, you know, the death penalty is in a weird moment in the united states right now. it is legal but it is declining. you know, there have only been 34 executions in arizona since 1976 when the death penalty came back in. there are only 127 people on death row in arizona. there are only three women on death row in arizona. it is unusual for someone like jodi arias even to face the death penalty and i think that's what really catapulted this case into the public consciousness,