>> i got to know robert very well as a parent. he asked me to write him a character reference to take with him to court. it was about lily's best interest. siding with robert was the right thing to do. >> the mother's own mother was prepared to testify for robert. and the mother's own sister was prepared to testify. that is a total oddity. usually blood is thicker than water. >> it was going to be her way or no way, that lily was going to go to no school, was not going to socialize. she was not going to get her vaccinations. and was not going to learn about anything but the confederacy. something had to be done about that. >> when i was walking into