it could just be out there some place in the five boroughs or on long island and we'll never find it. >> do you have any idea where it will go if it is recovered? >> initially, the yacht owners wanted to give to it the smithsonian. that's where old glory is. it's the most visited exhibit at the smithsonian. i think now with the 9/11 museum opening the spring, they would probably definitely consider that. >> what was the idea -- what gave you the idea to do this? obviously, it's what happened. but why you? because many people didn't know that the flag was even missing. what made you take this up as a mission? >> i think there is a larger story there. this is probably the most iconic picture of the day. it's the one that ended up on covers, "newsweek," covers of newspapers. it's been referenced by people like rudy giuliani. it was even in his political campaign. so people know this picture. what they didn't know was the story behind this flag and this flag raising. so it was a way to revisit the day. >> what is your hope here, obviously, to find it, right?