way, that would help donald trump in the election. >> ax, governor hogan -- >> ax, let me say this. we would not be discussing any of this if biden and trump were not so weak. so it's an interesting election. i wouldn't want to be associated with anything that would be a spoiler for either donald trump or joe biden. we'll just have to wait and see. it's going to be a wide ride in 2024. >> thanks, guys. one candidate has the edge in voter enthusiasm. we'll dig into the new iowa polling with my panel, next.

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