are the surrender of its sovereignty, and the delegation is led by the former culture minister who is not really seen as any kind of figure with serious influence, and he's one of the major nationalists, a revisionists in russian government circles which includes the aggressive line on ukraine that russia has taken in recent years. i think it really is on russia at this point to show ukraine is prepared to negotiate in good faith, because putin said the other day we are open for dialogue but our core interests are not negotiable, and what that seems to mean is we are open for talks but you do what we want and we don't make any concessions, and that's not going to work. >> max was speaking to me
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