game here, and you know what the problem with that is in that's dangerous for the entire country. >> you gave the transcript out. it wasn't tribanscribed really from a recorded call. i don't love their protocols and i don't like how they put it in this password-protected place either. >> that's not my zone. i'm the president's counsel. i am not the white house counsel, and you know that. >> i'm not blaming you for it. i'm saying i don't like it. and i'm saying that high crimes and misdemeanors, jay, it only exists in politics. and it's about, according to our founding fathers, it's about people in positions of public trust buziabusing that power. >> chris, you're a smart guy. how does this end? how does this end? do you really believe the president of the united states will be impeached and convicted in the united states senate based on that phone call with ukraine? do you really believe that? i do not. >> i don't think that's a fair representation. >> well, that's what the constitution requires. you're the one who said senate makes the trial.
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