Theres got to be another reason. Well, how can he say that . Where is he getting that from . What a big denial. To be certain it was foam is nonsense, right . But to be certain it wasnt foam is equally nonsense. Right . And thats what they were saying. Its not foam. Well, how do you know . I know from the Accident Investigation teams perspective, No One was Gonna Go Public and say, we know what didnt happen. You get that shot right there . Thats a nasa official. Hes holding a piece of foam, which he is now saying could not have had enough impact cause its too light to have damaged those tiles that weve been talking about. I knew ron. I had respect for ron. Ron was Linda Hams Boss and a good manager. But whats always the first step in grief . Denial. I called ron and i said,