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associates. that was forbidden under the transfer agreement. you are not supposed to get back with those people. you can call your family members and you can complain. you can complain about how you were treated and complain about the united states and you can't call people up and engage in conversations that could lead to plotting or planning. there was a clear indication the intelligence community thought that is what was going on. >> barbara starr, thank you. let's get more now from the chair of the house foreign affairs committee congressman ed royce. barbara starr just made the observation that these five guys were to have been released anyway. we should be grateful that we were able to get bergdahl back in exchange for them. >> michael, the difficulty was the premise that we should have released the individuals who were what the deputy minister of intelligence. the deputy minister of defense of the taliban. a third individual that was very close to osama bin laden. a fourth who was involved in crimes against humanity.

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