blood, it was o.j. simpson's blood. now, why the trial got so coal volume luted and so bogged down in what is dna, because it was kind of new at the time. that one piece of evidence spoke volumes. what was his droop of blood doing on the boot toe of ron goldman. >> but you don't buy into invite arguments that the guy did it, but the lapd played loose with the blood? >> no furman was a great cop in my opinion, but he lied with the past. >> if they had a videotape, would they then have convicted. i'm convinced they would not have? >> maybe, but yeah, i think the deck was stacked. with that jury being in downtown los angeles, not in fancy brentwood, i think the deck was stacked. he was going to be not guilty. >> and the legacy all these reality programs, all stemming