that things are fully safe yet. it seems that police have some control of the situation, but things are still very fluid, and it doesn't appear that things are safe out there. >> we know home depot in odessa is a location where they believe at least one of the shooters if there are more than one has now gone, and is shooting. i want to bring in jonathan wacrow, a former secret service agent. jonathan from the latest information we have, this is still an active situation. can you take us inside how law enforcement would be navigating this situation right now. >> well, to shimon's point just a moment ago, this is a chaotic situation, and, you know, part of the reasoning around the chaos in the early moments and early reporting of the active shooter situation is we're now dealing with a new dynamic in the totality of active shooters is this mobile active shooter utilizing vehicles. this is the second time this year that we have seen a change or an increase in tactics around