right, i don't believe that essentially. >> you have to imagine there are many people inside this white house who get asked to do things that they're extremely uncomfortable with. >> he says he wasn't even asked. the doj says he wasn't asked. do you believe that? >> well, i thought his very careful testimony in response to kamala harris's questioning as to whether he'd ever been asked to undergo an investigation at the president's behest, i think that's particularly telling. i haven't read the document from doj. this white house is very, very careful at threading fine needles. we saw that with their response to the i.g. report justifying turning over the whistleblower complaint. i think that's a very weak argument. but this probably isn't the first or last time we'll see this legally. >> i want to go back and listen to something that bill barr said during the may hearing. this is his response about receiving dirt on a competitor. >> just so you understand, it's