seize government buildings perhaps and decapitate the government. and they're going to have a very hard time doing that. and every day that goes by that they don't win, whether i use that term advisedly, that just heightens the frustration of the russians. now, what concerns me in all this is they'll resort to what they're famous for, which is a heavy use of artillery, rocketry and that sort of thing, and just do a lot of mindless -- they already are. a lot of mindless destruction and killing a lot of innocent people. that's my fear. >> i mean, i keep looking at what russia did in grozny. i mean, they decimated that city, assassinated a lot of people, a lot of leader -- a lot of government officials, and
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