and once the murder start -- once the fight started, again, i think she snapped and lost it, like they say she did. so -- >> let me bring in elisha. because i can see you shaking your head, elisha. you clearly don't agree with this. what is your reaction? >> yes, yes, yes. i do not agree with what gus has to say. i don't appreciate his comments at all. he did not abuse jodi arias. and i want that to be clear. he did not abuse anyone. he was the kindest man that you will ever meet. and it is a tragedy that he is gone. >> and elisha, do you think she should get the death penalty? >> you know, i have forgiven her a long time ago. and, you know, whether i -- think she deserves the death penalty or not, isn't up to me. i think solitary confinement actually would be worse for her. because she likes the spotlight. you know. either way, she did it. she murdered my friend. we can't bring him back. and it is a true tragedy,
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