>> you mentioned an informality, jim. they brought a baby up. to kiss a baby. we see at the side of the popemobile some security detail. i would imagine the security detail here is massive. >> in a way it's massive but in a way it's not massive and we can't see the things of ali aja. this kind of scene. how could you as a security person protect anyone from aass. there's some screening but they can't screen everybody. as a consequence, it's a very vulnerable thing and he's a vulnerable figure when he's doing this sort of thing. >> jim bidderman, we just saw an amazing image, pope francis being handed a baby, kissing a
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