what does he do? pulls out the gun, pointing it at the clerk. and the clerk is like, and what does he do? he tries to hit the gun away and starts punching the armed robber. what does the armed robber do? boom. kim kills the clerk. committing a felony, you cannot claim self-defense, you've now murdered the clerk because during the felony that you were doing, you pointed -- armed robbery, pointing a gun at somebody. you expect when you're committing felonies people are going to fight back, right? they're entitled to fight back, right? imagine if armed robbers could come in and go, well, i had to defend myself against the victim of my crime. could you imagine if that was the law? right? isn't that what they're saying? how dare mr. arbery defend himself against their four felonies? isn't that what they're saying to you? so felony murder. let's take a look at it.