of our country will be occupied. why would we need those sanctions then? >> according to the sanctions to be leveled now, you also talked about nato now. there's obviously, this is big sensitive issue in this whole issue, right? and you have just talked about, again, wanting to be part of nato. and yet you said you don't expect any nato soldiers on your territory now. you specifically said we want no foreign soldiers with foreign flags on our territory right now. what is your position on wanting to join nato today? >> translator: in terms of nato we had a lot of debate regarding this, and there were a lot of discussions around the world leaders and my friends, and everyone is saying there is some distance we need to go between ukraine and nato that we need to walk. all we are saying is tell us how much time does it take to complete this distance measured in years. and you see this is measured not
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