and how to rebuild, that is vital and that hawaii has a sunshine law when it comes to transparency about these decisions and demanding governor green abide by this and i talked to archie kalepa, leader, surfer, lifeguard and pioneered jet ski rescues on these aisles and i asked him about have you even had contact with the people in charge. take a listen. >> we do need dialogue for sure we need dialogue and i think that's the first step through this process is being able to sit down and have first off is -- it's a process and people want to vent. i'm sure that, you know, they want to vent as well, but let's get through that, get to the point where we can begin to make good decisions moving forward that gets community by and first
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