what was your take away from this experience writing this book? >> sitting down with him he sounds like a guy running. talking about how he can't commit to vice president pence as the next vice president. talking about himself in the third person. you know, all the republicans love me. 90% love trump. another thing that's interesting about the passage you just read which i happen to really think is the heart of the story, he views himself as a victim of covid. the covid came along and it was too bad for his presidency. right? he could beat washington and lincoln. most american historians and objective pundits rank president trump's presidency at the bottom percentile. he sees himself as a victim and who soldiered on so valiantly. whereas his -- you know, his closest advisers supported the steps were in near panic mode
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