this covid misinformation and refusal to follow public health protocols and a new piece in "the atlantic" arguing anti-vaccine right brought human sacrifice to america and with me now to talk about that, author of "evil genius is the unmaking of america: a recent history." let's talk about this. you write the right's ongoing propaganda campaign against organized resistance to vaccination among other public health protocol has been killing many americans for no reasonable ethically justifiable purpose. expand on that. >> there are always going to be people who didn't want to get a vaccine. an anti-vaccine movement before there was ever a covid vaccine in the last 20 years and wasn't all from the right. once the republican party decided under donald trump to politicize this so strictly, vaccine protocols, public health protocols and then once we had a