could say without incriminating himself, basically. it's a very -- i think we can underscore this to say it's a legal authority issue here they have to work out before this can go forward. it will go forward in some regard. the 46-year-old caesar goodson, 16 years with the force, he faces that most serious charge of second degree depraved heart murder. meaning he willingfulfully knew needed help and didn't get it. reckless engagement. the last trial of officer porter ended in mistrial. they're trying to avoid that but it'll be some time before they are able to get to a jury. jury selection with officer goodson. then get to that trial. it is -- it underscores just how difficult it is in baltimore to move this forward, with six