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the supreme court's case in heller versus direct of columbia. i represented 31 states in the heller case which upheld the right to keep and bear arms. barack obama's position is there is no right to keep and bear arms under the constitution. you and every american -- >> reporter: but that's not what he said when he spoke. he said he's a constitutional lawyer and he very much believes in the second amendment. you're just saying you don't believe him? >> let's be clear. hillary clinton says she'll put supreme court justices on the supreme court that will overturn heller. there were four justices, including obama's appointees, who said -- actually, obama's appointees weren't there said it is only a collective right in the militia. which is fancy lawyer talk.

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