disputed donbas areas but that ukraine would no longer object to those territories being an russian control. if putin manages to ring that out of the now practically under fire ukrainian government, then without firing a shot, he's gotten from this massive troop buildup what he couldn't get at the negotiating table through the minsk process. and in that way, if you ukraine blink blinks and allows him control of those territories, then this would also rob some of the sanctions that are on russia right now of their legal basis. so, you know, that would be a way of avoiding war. but in the end, that would be the moscow bully getting what he's pushing for which is salami slices territory under russian control without ukraine objecting. >> okay, michael, very confusing

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