through how do we convince people, how do we get the whole country to do the right thing and get to vaccination, and so really the conversation was focused about -- on that and him encouraging us and asking us to do everything we could with fellow ceos or anyone we were in contact with, to encourage others to do the same thing. >> so it wasn't a part of the conversation in the meeting but what do you think about the idea, our national security analyst julia cotham said there should be a vaccination requirement to fly in this country, as an incentive to encourage more people to do that. do you support that? >> i think there's a vaccine requirement broadly -- >> for customers, passengers. >> it's a government question, but i suspect that it probably won't happen domestically. mostly because it's just -- it would be logistically hard to