talking point. it's a real place with real problems. secretary of state hillary clinton was the architect of, this coalition that removed gadha gadhafi. why wasn't there more of a focus on that in terms of u.s. foreign policy? >> you're completely right. benghazi in 2015 is a mess. we've seen failed attempts by u.n. and other key actors to broker peace talks between two rival factions. and libya has historically been split tribally into faks. and the west and the east primarily. with that being said, i think secretary clinton made an effective and forceful case today, not only for the rationale that led her to support the intervention in libya in 2011, but playing a role as the ambassador, but also in to kufsing on what she did as secretary of state after gadhafi fell. the united states did play a